NY Radio DJ Billy The Kidd attempts to call out bats**t crazy Adam Lambert fans

2009 November 7

Glamberts are getting their panties in a bunch because radio stations just are not playing either Lambert’s Time For Miracles, or the recently released For Your Entertainment. Naturally, they think the best thing to do is barrage these radio stations with calls and emails demanding to hear Adam Lambert’s music.

And this NEVER helps their cause. Z100FM Evening DJ/Dallas Kiss 106.1 FM Music Director Billy the Kidd decided to call out these batshit crazy bitches via Twitter.

Heads up Adam Lambert fans- it doesn’t help when u SPAM my e mail with requests! Ps I can’t believe you call urselves the “Glamberts” ha!

Do you hear that? This man is not going to play his music EVER if you keep spamming him. Can you take a hint? You people live on Twitter now, and I’m sure you’ve received the message, but I don’t you actually get it. Because you rarely, if ever, “get it.”

Some lunatic created an account under the name HurChaRealGood and started harassing poor Billy.

@billyontheradio heads up You’ll believe it when yr boss gets his phone rung off the hook 4 being rude 2 YR CUSTOMERS yr only a talking head

Billy responds to her lunacy a couple of times. The first:

@HurChaRealGood Leave me alone! I dont need attention. You are giving Glamberts a BAD NAME. I was just making a POINT. Get over it.

I love Billy The Kidd. I don’t even know if I’ve ever heard his radio show, but I love this guy right now. He speaks the TRUTH!

@HurChaRealGood I was SIMPLY makin a point that when fan clubs spam our WORK e mail, it DOESNT HELP. Thats all.

Obviously, she’s not the ONLY Glambert getting into the deranged spirit of things.

Im not rude, just honest. I like Adam, he is talented, but fan clubs sometimes HURT the artist RT @ImSarahK @billyontheradio youre very rude

The lunatic then acts like Billy the Kidd is denying them because she found a request form on the Z100FM website and Adam Lambert’s name is on it. It clearly does not occur to her it was probably recently added in order to prevent the SPAM in their WORK EMAIL.

@billyontheradio Double bullsheeet there’s a request form right on the site HERE GLAMBERTS http://www.z100.com/pages/info/request.html

Billy warns her one more time.

@HurChaRealGood and if you think im just a “talking head” …check the facts.

And he’s right. He isn’t just a talking head. He’s the evening DJ on weeknights for Z100 FM…a Top 40 Station in NYC. I think he may have some control over what he plays and frankly, he’s a DJ in the #1 radio market in the U.S. New York City, you idiots. So really, how are you helping by spamming DJs in the country’s biggest city? You want to ensure he never gets any airtime in New York City by behaving like idiots? Hell, when I was 13 and really wanted to hear Prince’s Bat Dance so I could tape it when it came on, I only called once and stayed up for until 4 or 5 am when they finally played it (It had just been released and you could not buy the single yet). I was 13 and I knew better than you batshit crazies.

You people will never learn. Have fun killing Adam Lambert’s career before it actually begins!

hucharealgood harasses billy the kidd via twitter

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  1. 2009 November 7
    freedavidcook permalink

    Oh sweet tap dancing sonny boy Jesus! They really are some demented bitches! And to think I thought they were all crazy for searching for David Cook plus Adam Lambert slash. They’re crossing the line into illegal there. Hope some of them end up in the pokey.

    • 2009 November 7

      That first line gave me minor gigglefitz.

      Billy is awesome. Back when I actually listened to the radio (I live in NJ, so I’ve grown up with Z100), he made radio more than just music, but actual entertainment. He has a good sense of humor. Him, Elvis Durant and the Z-Morning Zoo, etc.–So it’s both humorous and preposterous that these oblivious, dumbfuck fraus just throw any insult they can think of simply because they feel that threats are equivocal to results.

      Whoa, I just had a flashback to middle school. I’m pretty sure it was Billy who came to our school to give some lecture. About what, I can’t remember, but it happened.

  2. 2009 November 7
    deez permalink

    wow. Ok. I know that some people think KrisTards are just as bad( sorry but no)…(although I only got a 7 on the Dr Fender test, so maybe I don’t qualify) but I think this is the reason I landed square in the Kris camp. The BSC Glamberts. I actually voted for Adam in the finale, although I would generally alternate voting for both him and Kris (depending on whom I liked more that week.) But since the end of season 8, I can’t take the CRAZY. I finally stopped paying attention, and now (actually for quite some time) I avoid stuff about Adam like the plague…unless it’s HERE.

    Kris has grown on me as well, but I can’t say that it wasn’t because I because I paid MORE attention to him and LESS to Adam.

    • 2009 November 8
      8sourcandy permalink

      I will not have the Glambertzilla Mafia prevent me from enjoying my fan-tarding of Adam Lambert. Clearly, this faction of mentally unhinged fans exists but normal ones do too. There are at least four of us now.

      BTW: Brace yourselves. Apparently. People’s list of 100 sexiest men for 2009 does NOT include Adam Lambert. It does include Kris Allen. Personally, I did scratch my head over it because whether you like him or not he should be on that list. So if I am peeved by his omission can you imagine how the Glambertzilla Mafia will handle it. News of a severed horse’s head found in the bed of the publisher is eminent.

      • 2009 November 8
        TopIdol permalink

        But Jon Hamm is on there, right???

        I’m sure the Glamberts have spammed those useless People’s Choice Awards (the only way they can get people to show up is by telling them they won beforehand) so Lambert wins “favorite reality TV star”. Then they will probably declare this as PROOF of Lambert being the REAL WINNER over Kris Allen.

        • 2009 November 9
          8sourcandy permalink

          I will check for you. I think I saw David Cook. I thought I saw Danny Gokey, but it turned out to to be Robert Downey Jr. (on a bad day)

          • 2009 November 10
            veritas permalink

            LOL. The first time I saw Danny Gokey, I said to my husband that he looked like Robert Downey Jr’s younger, uglier cousin.

        • 2009 November 9
          8sourcandy permalink

          I watched the video at least six times. There are two guys that bear some resemblance but, I can’t say for sure if either is Hamm. I did see the Jonas Brothers. Which should not agitate me, but it does? The Twilight guy is expected to be the cover boy. More agitation.

          • 2009 November 9
            8sourcandy permalink

            Can you believe I typed bear? Bare.

          • 2009 November 9
            TopIdol permalink

            And that would be completely logical, given that anything, Twilight shit sells magazines. And its all about sales.

            But isn’t he like 12? Or 22? Same thing.

      • 2009 November 8

        AWESOME–for Kris, I mean. It’s nice that some list would give him that recognition.

        Now for me, Adam isn’t *that* attractive, ’cause I think he’s overcaked in makeup and that infamous cold sore picture is just ick, but on results shows, he did look somewhat attractive when he was semi-guylinered but not fully. Plus, they don’t often include gay men on those lists, I don’t think.

        Hence, the BSC Glamberts will go APESHIT, accusing them of homophobia and yadda yadda. Honestly, I find it rather amusing, since several fans I know were previously more right-winged. But give them a gay idol, and suddenly they’re protesting Prop. H8.

        • 2009 November 8
          deez permalink

          Adam is attractive w/o the makeup. There’s one pic in particular where all the freckles are showing and the eyes are unlined. He looks great there. He should save the other stuff for the stage. It’s not really “out there” anymore. You can go to a small town mall anywhere and find guys made up.

        • 2009 November 8
          8sourcandy permalink

          From a marketing standpoint someone dropped the ball. The magazines that have featured Adam have had record sales numbers. He is controversial. He is attractive. He should have been on that list. Why he was overlooked is very curious to me.

          • 2009 November 9
            TopIdol permalink

            There is a method to it, you know? I think they always have the Idol winner…and since Time Warner also owns EW, perhaps they will put Lambert on the cover again.

            I don’t really think Lambert’s non-inclusion on the People’s 100 Sexiest Men issue is even worth discussing. It’s so arbitrary and hell, it usually coincides with the person having a film released or another big project, sometimes…hmmm…or maybe has made a big dent in the realm of sexiness during the year. It’s typically someone in at least their 30s, too.

            Personally, from a marketing standpoint, I would go with JON HAMM.

            • 2009 November 9
              8sourcandy permalink

              Top Idol I Thought is was a passing phase but, much like me and the part of Adam am not allowed to mention, you have become obsessed. It’s all about the Hamm now, isn’t it? Well, I guess I’ll have to start watching Mad Men. I do like ham.

      • 2009 November 8

        Do you really think Adam could be in the list of the 100 sexiest men? I don’t think so, after his Cd cover appeared everywhere, he could probably have been nominated for the 100 sexiest women though.

        • 2009 November 8
          Lauren permalink

          Androgyny doesn’t make a male become a female. I agree with 8sour(but sometimes sweet!)candy that Adam should be in the 100 sexiest men list, but I guess the makers of the list didn’t so whatever…

        • 2009 November 8
          8sourcandy permalink

          Except for the fact that he is actually a man. Make-up does not change one’s gender. Nor does a graphic designers heavy handed photoshopping.

          • 2009 November 9
            Lauren permalink

            Haha we are echoing each other now! *Is happy to be over that short little quibble earlier*

            • 2009 November 9
              8sourcandy permalink

              Alls good.

  3. 2009 November 7
    Lauren permalink

    Gosh they are insane! I wish I could just laugh about it like you guys do but I can’t. I am so pissed off. When Adam is never played on the radio and eventually becomes forgotten, it will be all there fault! Just place your request one time and wait to see if it is played! Spamming never gets a positive response.

  4. 2009 November 7
    Jenny permalink

    Lauren I feel for ya. It is true that this insanity hurts the artist. I never followed idol so when I started following a certain AI winner I was under the impression that batshit crazies were just part of the deal, and how could having fans hurt the artists? Let me tell you just being part of the show turns people off these guys, radio stations will play them, but won’t go out of there way to say anything good, but they will get their suttle digs in when they can. I kinda liked Adam, but feel so sorry for him. I know all the male contestans have their crazies, but those few overinvested fans are at a level that not even Clay Aiken’s were. Skeery for Adam.

    • 2009 November 8
      8sourcandy permalink

      The thing that I observed about Adam Lambert over these many months is his ability to sell himself. I watched him in interviews with various DJs, expecting frat-boy, homophobic posturing and barbs, but instead found them to be somewhat in awe of Adam, very respectful and complimentary. Yes, Adam fans (not all) are bat-shit crazy. But Adam’s talent and charisma will win people over. DJ’s will play Adam Lambert if playing Adam Lambert means revenue. I suspect it will. This DJ is tapping in to the Adam phenom by using these dumb bitches as comic relief. This DJ made the choice to engage in this. If he ignored them, that would give me pause concern. Besides, DJs like this one, have a reputation of being outrageous. He needs to poke fun at this and I would rather him take pot-shots at Adam’s fans then them take pot-shots at Adam.

  5. 2009 November 7
    Linda permalink

    Not all Adam Lambert fans are batshit crazy, just so you know. I love the man’s voice and would love to hear For Your Entertainment on the radio. I have no idea who got Billy’s work email and started spamming it, but I’d bet that it is one or two nuts with no idea how to behave. Most fans have a life and just happen to think that he sounds great – and based on the buzz so far, it seems that many industry experts agree.

    I would hope that Billy, as a respected professional, would play music based on merit and on the opinions of the many – and not decide that he is going to withhold music because of his negative opinion of a couple of idiots. His suggestion that fans only contact the station once every two weeks seems extreme. I don’t believe that all other artist’s fans are always restrained – how about the beat down, must get a ticket for my baby girl Miley Cyrus people? Yet Z100 still plays Miley – its about the music in the end, man.

    • 2009 November 7
      Verbally Dyslexic permalink

      The unfortunate thing for the saner fans is that the BSCs are extremely vocal and always spew hateful remarks to anyone who doesn’t think Adam Lambert is a godsend. That’s what the radio DJs encounter on a regular basis, so they form their opinions based on their experience. Of course they’ll play the song, but not everytime it’s requested, which seems to be what the Glamberts are expecting.

      The sad thing is that the act of calling out the cray cray fans rarely calms them down, so the next best thing is to go the Jim Cantiello (and TI) route and mock the hell out of them!

    • 2009 November 8
      8sourcandy permalink

      “not all Adam Lambert fans are batshit crazy, just so you know.” I know that’s why I put(not all)

  6. 2009 November 7
    Lauren permalink

    *Sigh* I never thought anyone could beat the insanity level of Claymates but I guess the Glamberts finally have.

  7. 2009 November 7
    Lauren permalink

    We know not all Adam fans aren’t crazy. I in fact am pretty sure that I still retain at least partial sanity…Yet, I do label myself as a Glambert.
    I do agree that Billy should decided based on what music he believes deserves radio time but can really blame the guy for his bias after being harassed by ruthless Glamberts??? Miley Cyrus is not music….

  8. 2009 November 7
    saskin permalink

    Wow. This is bad. I’ve been following this thing just for a few months now and even I know that you don’t mess with z100. They’re only like the #1 ranked radio in the US.

    Well, he was arrogant enough to say that he created himself not his fans. So maybe he can undo this himself too. (I’m not saying this to be vindictive, I just think it is an arrogant thing to say when the only ones buying his stuff is still just his fan base)

    • 2009 November 8
      tinawina permalink

      Not just the #1 pop station in the United States, but they are the most influential station. There are a lot of other stations that take their cue from Z-100. If they add Adam’s song and spin it a lot, other stations may pick it up. If they won’t touch it, it makes it a lot harder for the song to reach the top of the chart.

      It doesn’t matter whether other fanbases have done this in the past, defensive Glamberts. Y’all better get a hold of YOUR crazies, because they can actually do some damage this time. This is not the guy, and that is not the station, to piss off. Get them to CUT IT OUT.

    • 2009 November 9
      8sourcandy permalink

      He said that they voted him in, but it’s what he created on stage that warranted their support. His fans don’t own him. He does need to make that clear. They can’t lord it over him that they voted for him. I voted my face off during that final show. I don’t think he owes me anything more then what he provided which was a great kick-ass performance.

  9. 2009 November 7
    Verbally Dyslexic permalink

    Please tell me HurChaRealGood is a teenager who doesn’t know any better…

  10. 2009 November 7
    isidra permalink

    Whoa. They’re seriously pissing off Z100? That’s remarkably stupid. Especially considering how helpful that station’s support has been to Kris. There’s no reason Adam couldn’t benefit as well…except for the more scary of his fans, possibly.

  11. 2009 November 8
    ShaqAttack permalink

    Wow, that has gotten ugly. That is not good at all; pissing off someone from the #1 ranked radio station in the US is not going to do Adam any favors at all.

  12. 2009 November 8
    Beeno permalink

    How embarrasing. But dont act like Adam Lambert is the only one with crazy fans. Every fan base has them. Britney, Rihanna, Gaga , no artist is immune to bat shit crazy fans.

    • 2009 November 8
      ShaqAttack permalink

      Oh yeah, every artist has some type of crazy fans; but, Adam is an upcoming artist and fan behavior like above is not going to help his case at all.

      • 2009 November 8
        TopIdol permalink

        I love one Glambert’s reply:

        People are going too far and that’s my point.

        I sure hope that it isn’t Adam haters who are spamming to try and sabotage Adam.

        http://www.adamofficial.com/us/node/907373#comment-908671

        • 2009 November 8
          deez permalink

          Yeah…that’s totally it, b/c Glamberts would NEVER spam.

        • 2009 November 8
          WhoEver permalink

          I sure hope that it isn’t Adam haters who are spamming to try and sabotage Adam.

          HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

          Yeah, that must be it. Uh huh.

    • 2009 November 8
      rehabilitard permalink

      AI brings in the most craziest.

  13. 2009 November 8
    Lauren permalink

    Completely unrelated but I can’t believe that Stupak amendment passed. I hate our government. Change= status quo…Of course health care reform would have to include pro-life legislation. Because Congress is predominantly male. They aren’t getting pregnant. Why would they care about a woman’s rights?
    *sorry in advance to anyone who completely disagrees with me but I needed to rant somewhere*

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      I’m hoping it gets worked out when it goes to the Senate.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/health/policy/08health.html?_r=1&hp

      I’m definitely not pleased with the Stupak Amendment.

      • 2009 November 8
        Lauren permalink

        I hope so too…though honestly I don’t think it will. Pretty much all the Republicans are very anti-abortion and then a bunch of the democrats are too…

    • 2009 November 8

      Just had to comment to echo your rant Lauren. Though I would argue that anti-choicers aren’t “pro-life” as I’ve never met one that is against war or the death penalty. Most I know support the 2 wars we are in completely. I think pro-fetus is a more apt term. If men could get pregnant, abortions would be offered at the drive thru.

      • 2009 November 8
        Lauren permalink

        I totally agree. The term pro-life can be very misleading. And if Congress was predominantly female, there is no way this would have passed in the House. I’m just glad you guys agree with and no one is calling me a baby killer.

      • 2009 November 9
        Sherena permalink

        Thank you. And Lauren too. The Stupak Amendment definitely does NOT please me either… I’m really hoping it doesn’t go through the Senate.

  14. 2009 November 8

    And the harrassment of radio stations begins… Isn’t Z100 the one that’s helped Kris quite a bit? Maybe they could do the same for Adam if the BSC tards wouldn’t insult the DJs.

    • 2009 November 8

      Is that so? I’m behind the times and out of the loop, but fascinated, as a Krisaholic. Tell me a/[the] story, please =).

      • 2009 November 8

        If I remember correctly (which I sometimes don’t) Z100 premiered his song, and continued to play it, and I think I read that the DJs said some nice things about him. I may have gotten that wrong, so hopefully someone who pays closer attention can correct me.

  15. 2009 November 8
    cimi permalink

    Adam will be around for a long time to come…I don’t even get why you all are thinking otherwise.

    • 2009 November 8
      rehabilitard permalink

      Do you have a crystal ball?

  16. 2009 November 8
    Sherena permalink

    Oh…my God

    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO. It turns radio stations majorly OFF an artist. Wtf is wrong with these people D:

    I guess I’ll keep posting advice on how to not be obnoxious to radio everywhere and hope it sticks at least a little.

  17. 2009 November 8
    spinningfasterandfastertonowhere permalink

    I seen that name HurChaRealGood before.

    I sometimes read the reviews and articles on the idol contestants and not surprisingly I have seen that name or a variation of that name like “HurCha’good” raking Kris Allen over the coals in the comment section on several articles where you don’t have to sign in with an email. So I believe it is that BSC bitch.

  18. 2009 November 8
    kneipho permalink

    Depressing and sad…

  19. 2009 November 8
    Nic permalink

    Wow, that was completely the worst thing they could have done. Z100 was a major help to Kris – they premiered LLWD and then they just kept spinning it. It was actually one of the stations who didn’t have natural inclination to avoid the guys because they’re “Idol kids.” Way to shoot yourselves in the foot, Glamberts – too bad it hurts Adam and not you instead.

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      From what I can gather, HrtChaSoGood or whatever her name is, lives in PENNSYLVANIA.

      Diva Kalina [should band together with my other PA readers] needs to go and do something about the freakish fantards in PA…so many of them there it seems, like L. Anne Carrington and the evil DCU woman Maryann Edwards, who goes by Holly on where whacked out DCU board and claims to be in her early 30s, hot, blond and with an ad executive job in NYC. HA HA HA HA HA. This woman has stalked & harassed women merely photographed with Clay Aiken, Constantine Maroulis AND as of late, David Cook.

      • 2009 November 9
        8sourcandy permalink

        I saw the AI concert in PA. They are crazy. There was this one old-as-dirt woman with a homemade sign comprised of all these photos of Adam that she pasted with one big one of her in the center. She also had these red-chlamydia inducing-panties with elastic around the legs to throw up on stage. They looked like left overs from a 1972 Tom Jones concert. Anyway, security reprimanded her several times and nearly escorted her out because she was fantarding with her big sign and fighting with everyone. AND I had words with her over a homophobic remark she made to me. Bat shit crazy!

  20. 2009 November 8
    Mona permalink

    Well, reading the tweets, the fan was making the point that there is NO EMAIL for the dj on z100’s site. So how was he getting spam? I think it’s a valid point. The dj is the one who picked the fight. He certainly knew he’d get replies. And there are no tweets to him to play Lambert, so fans are spamming email but not Twitter? I’m not buying that either.

    • 2009 November 8
      Marcus permalink

      Thanks for being the one person with a brain to comment on this article.

      Nobody emailed this guy because nobody can. He’s picked fights with fans on Twitter before. The fact that this makes the blog rounds as “news” proves how pathetic this fandom is all on its own.

      • 2009 November 8
        TopIdol permalink

        I think he was referring to this:

        http://www.z100.com/pages/info/contact.html

        He said it was not just him, but other employees. From the contact form, you can email a variety of departments or people…and I imagine much of these emails go directly to one person.

        Hey, perhaps I will contact Billy the Kidd and find out. Why not, eh?

        • 2009 November 11

          BSC Glamberts! Baaaad! Lots of Glamberts were complaining about this on AO, that fans should just request like “normal” people would and not do spamming because it only hurts Adam. If you do get hold of Billy let him know it is only a minority of fans who are truly crazy. Also many fans were saying that the online form to request Adam wasnt being accepted when they tried to submit it, whilst requests for other artists went through fine. This, if true, would naturally cause a little frustration – could be worth mentioning that too.

      • 2009 November 8
        Isidra permalink

        So really, you think the guy’s making up being spammed to…do what exactly?

        I mean, really, what advantage does he get out of it? And even if he did it solely to provoke, how would he have known that THIS fanbase would be perfect for the batshit responses?

        Unless of course, someone is spamming the station after all. That’d be a good way to know. And even if he IS just baiting them, rising to his bait like these people are doing will not help Adam Lambert.

        And I can’t speak for anyone else, but I think a group of batshit crazy fans accidently sabotaging a fairly talented artist is worth a comment or two.

  21. 2009 November 8
    Mona permalink

    Exactly. He’s not on the contact form. To parse the thing, sorry, He actually said “my email” in the call-out tweet. And in fairness, he said p.s. “I can’t believe you call urselves “Glamberts” ha!”

    I know that meets your narrative of the Glambert fantarding , I get that, but in this instance I think he was asking for it. He added “our” email later. For me? They have those forms for a reason and certainly are capable of breezing through them to select the ones they want. But yeah, contact the program director it’ll be interesting to see if that’s their policy to publicly call out fans of new artists for supporting their station. Many of whom could be kids. I don’t know about pop radio but it seems like a call for attention and a subsequent backpedal from his follow up tweets.

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      I am thinking they were sending the requests to almost all of those contact forms, i.e., program director, new artist whatever, song requests…at least that’s what I took from it

    • 2009 November 8
      saskin permalink

      If I may, I’ll make a minor observation: I don’t think Lambert fans are disturbed by the fact that a bunch of them are going around harassing people. They seem to be disturbed by the fact that one of them harassed a radio guy from the #1 ranked station in US.

      I think you guys are missing the point completely. Z100 is a professional station. If the song is a hit, they’ll play it. They’re not going to let a bat-shit-crazy person determine how they operate.

      The point is you are not supposed to go around harassing people. Anyone. Try to remember what your parents taught you. Use your common sense. It is called an opinion. Respect it.

  22. 2009 November 8
    carrmuse permalink

    I am an Adam Lambert fan, his voice is amazing and his creativity is off the chart. All of this drama has nothing to do with Adam Lambert, Clay Aiken or Kris Allen. It’s about a DJ who’s job is to attract people to his station and create controversy and a very small group or in this case one person who loves an artist so much they go way too far. This drama is no big thing and tomorrow we won’t hear anymore about it, old news. It just ain’t that deep people. Kris’ album will come out a sell what it sells as will Adam Lambert’s and countless other artists. The radio stations play what makes them money and if people want to hear an artist they will play them no matter what their personal feelings are. Let’s get above all this drama, ignore it and just enjoy the music. That is what it is all about. No matter what a few people would like to make it into.

    • 2009 November 8

      I highly doubt he’s “creating controversy” in order to lure attention to his station…a.k.a. the most POPULAR station in the Tri-State Area.

    • 2009 November 8
      Isidra permalink

      You might want to talk with a few Clay Aiken fans to get why this sort of drama surrounding an artist is not necessarily “no big deal.” Adam does have a few advantages that Clay didn’t, such as a more modern, radio-friendly sound, but it doesn’t seem like a good idea to assume that this will insulate him from the negative consequences of his own fans’ behavior.

      Some of the real batshit crazies are likely unstoppable, but if the saner fans would speak up more and remind everyone else why this stuff isn’t a good idea and what the proper way of going about requesting songs and not pissing off radio stations is, then maybe you can get some to listen.

      • 2009 November 11

        Reasoning with some BSC is not easy but many of the saner fans do try constantly to make them see objectively from what I have gathered from reading and participating in AO. I tried a few posts there myself to raise awareness – the overwhelming responses were positive (and a relief for me cos it’s a scary place when you say the wrong thing!) but there’s always a few that are just simply deranged and will never get it.

        • 2009 November 11
          TopIdol permalink

          Since AO is run by Lambert’s label, I think its just a way for them to keep track of the crazies.

    • 2009 November 8
      tinawina permalink

      You know I get it, I really do. Some of the saner fans are getting tired of all of Galmbertdom being lumped in with the Claymates. You don’t think the characterization is fair, and you get annoyed when it gets brought up. So you find ways to dismiss the topic every time it arises.

      Only, sometimes this stuff has real consequences. This is not about how you feel about being called crazy. This is about Adam Lambert’s career. This is they point where radio PDs and stuff try to get a feel for how popular a song really is so they can decide if to spin it and how much. If they get the idea that the only people who like the song are an OTT crazy minority of annoying housewives who never listen to their station anyway they will not spin the song, no matter how much they “like” Adam.

      This has happened before with many Idol fanbases and many non-Idol fanbases. It never works, and in fact it can hurt. That’s what people are trying to tell you. If you want dude to have a career, back off and try to tame down the crazy as best you can. Don’t get defensive and try to blame the DJ, the bloggers, or anyone who talks about it. Just listen for once. This is a lesson y’all need to learn NOW.

      • 2009 November 8
        tinawina permalink

        *This is the point where radio PDs and the like..

        Sorry, no edit function!

    • 2009 November 8
      Got2Bme permalink

      Radio stations play what they get paid to play, AND what fits within their programming.
      The decisions are made way up higher than the DJ, so it’s not worth wasting your energy.

      Doesn’t matter how much fans moan and bitch about it. Trust me.
      Adam is not a mainstream performer. He will get airplay where it’s appropriate.

      Sexiest Man? Are you f’n kidding me?

  23. 2009 November 8
    leema permalink

    Billy the Kidd’s twitter links to his myspace page. Not only is he the weeknight DJ for Z100, he’s the “On- Air/Music Director/APD” for KISS in Dallas-Ft. Worth (huuuuuge market too, right?).

    Here’s the contact page for KISS:
    http://www.1061kissfm.com/pages/contact.html

    Look at the e-mail address provided under “For music questions”

    P.S. I’ve never posted here (or anywhere Idol-related) before, but all the snark was too awesome to resist …

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      As far as radio/media markets are concerned, I do think Dallas is high up there. I can actually find you the list.

      Dallas-Ft. Worth is #5. NYC is #1, followed by LA, Chicago and SF.
      http://www.arbitron.com/radio_stations/mm001050.asp

      BTW I did check his MySpace and wasn’t sure which information was up-to-date or not up-to-date, given that he says on it he never uses it. There is a lot of syndication in radio these days, and I believe those are both Clear Channel stations.

      The point is, people make themselves look like idiots when they’re spamming radio stations. Constantly calling, tweeting, emailing, whatever. I can find you the quote where one woman was detailing her calls and she was literally asking the DJ “what the station’s INTENTIONS were for airing Lambert’s singles”. Of course they’re going to think you’re a freak when you talk like that.

      • 2009 November 8
        leema permalink

        Yeah, I doubted the MySpace page too, but it was enough to get me to check out the Kiss website. Since Dallas’ Kiss website asks that music questions get sent to him, I was inclined to believe that he is (at the very least) more than just a syndicated DJ. But what do I know!?!

        Anyway, not that any of this matters … I just thought all of the “but Z100 doesn’t list his e-mail address so he must be lying!” arguments were hilarious. A guy associated with multiple radio stations could very well have been spammed through other outlets, a combination of outlets, or whatever. If he has multiple work e-mails that he has to check, I would think that the effect of spamming would be that much worse.

        • 2009 November 8
          TopIdol permalink

          I never underestimate the power of a batshit crazy Idol fan’s devotion. They will find emails. They will find everything.

  24. 2009 November 8
    Barbara permalink

    I really resent the tone of this blog. Simply because I love Adam Lambert, I am a Glambert, but I am not bats***t. I know full well how to ask respectfully to have a song played and I do not spam email. Please do not lump all of us in the same category.

    In the end, I don’t think it really matters. Adam is going to be huge.

    FYI…here is Billythekidd’s latest tweet:

    it is huge and I respect that passion for music! Just a couple looneys hit me up :)

    Please note that he says “a couple of looneys”. That doesn’t include all of us.

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      Barbara,

      I know not all Adam Lambert fans are batshit crazy. There are many that comment on this blog. However, I think it’s a bad thing when the overzealous ones ruin it for everyone else — and Adam Lambert.

    • 2009 November 8
      tinawina permalink

      Not quite. More than a “couple” of looneys hit the station. They were emailing all over the place bugging everyone, that’s what he originally tweeted about. Then a couple of looneys harassed him on Twitter. Doesn’t change the fact that the station got hit up, and he is giving y’all fair warning not to do that anymore. If you didn’t do that then good for you, but try to get a hold of the ones that did and learn the lesson moving forward. The end.

      • 2009 November 8
        samantha permalink

        Point of clarification, tinawina, he did not originally tweet that in his first two tweets He simply tweeted “my email”. Yes, it could be true, but he did not add the plural until after being challenged. And it doesn’t diminish that he felt the need to bash the listeners’ with the mocking of the moniker “Glamberts”. Thus inviting comments. Actually he got off easy. The first comment back to him is a 16 yr old girl imsarah somebody who has no visible tweet quantity at all of cray cray nor any followers and following very few. It is quite organic and interesting to me.

        • 2009 November 8
          tinawina permalink

          Point taken on the plural, samantha… it is unclear whether it was just his email or multiple station emails. I would argue neither are great. I would also disagree that the original glambert comment qualified as “mocking his listeners”. But I do see how that could change depending on the eye of the beholder. To me, it just seemed like he though the fanbase name was funny. But to each his own. I think he’d have to say something more severe… like “Glambert is a stupid name and all his followers are morons” to be asking for it, which is what you seem to be implying. I’m not sure what you mean by the 16 year old girl’s response being organic. Would you mind clarifying?

          • 2009 November 8
            Samantha permalink

            Yeah, I’m getting that she’s not heavily invested in any particular fan base, having like, 4 followers and two are spammers lol, she sent a few requests to random radio shows in Connecticut, a couple of nothing impressive other tweets to Lambert and stuff….but yet felt compelled to reply to the guy and was actually first. Which is funny in itself. This little 16 y.o kid in her room feeling offended apropos some loudmouth she doesn’t know. so to speak. Maybe she gets that station in her town. Anyway, by organic I mean Lambert seems to have the IT factor that causes these responses from individuals not part of a group, which most high profile tarding tweeters are, I think. For me, they’re usually trying to get the attention of their peers or the star…but her, no. She was just insulted all by herself. That’s probably an Idol thing, I don’t know. Which is, obviously why these Idol blogs exist it’s so fascinating.

            • 2009 November 8
              TopIdol permalink

              I assumed it was someone who already has a main account, and created that account just for that purpose.

            • 2009 November 8
              Samantha permalink

              Not really she’s been quietly and peacefully tweeting little things here and there to nobody in particular and sometimes to Adam since September.

              Thanks for the interesting day, peace -out

              OH, and go do @billyontheradio you can see the “we take the term Glambert as an insult” tweets from you know who. LMAO. The self rightous stans who are identical if not “worse”. I mean for me that’s really hysterical when they are the actual authors of the READILY AVAILABLE slash porn etc. I guess the coolness factor is the determination of who is an a$$hat and who isn’t. ha ha

    • 2009 November 8
      saskin permalink

      I’ll repeat; you are missing the point. As long as all of you guys start each and every post by stating how much you adore Lambert you are accepting the fact that anyone who is less than blown away by him will be harassed. It is a cult. Eventually one of you start harassing a radio guy, another one a MTV guy, another one a TV guy etc. May be you don’t go around harassing radio guys, but you are indirectly encouraging it. It is a cult. It is a myth. He is just another reality show contestant that might have a chance to make it.

    • 2009 November 8
      Woody permalink

      Adam has proven to have amazing talent. I think that it is a little far-fetched to think that one or a handful of Adam’s crazed fans will cause a radio station to NOT play him. However, I do agree that there are some fans that need to calm down a little. It’s all supposed to be in good fun, right? O.o

    • 2009 November 9
      8sourcandy permalink

      If you are not bat shit crazy then why be offended? Only the crazy fans are made fun of.

  25. 2009 November 8

    Adam Lambert fans are of course obsessive, insane, crazy, but can you blame them? I mean Adam’s an amazing guy, so as a head’s up, Glamberts aren’t gonna give up from being the most annoying fans but most importantly the most SUPPORTIVE fans ever…LONG LIVE ADAM and GLAMBERTS!

  26. 2009 November 8

    Moo *glitterutters*.

  27. 2009 November 8
    samantha permalink

    This is off the dj topic I guess but actually, the Glambert moniker is invalid as to a specific group (the “original” fans on AO) and now it needs replacing. People see it as a global term but tarding fan groups insist on hyping the BSC Glambert thing while they act even “worse”.

    Last night some tards decided to trend something pornishly ridiculous and I decided to see “who” they were in light of the dj thing.

    They were about 20 completely unrelated girls who obsessively sat and spammed the thing for hours. No followers or following to any fan groups or members at all, barely each other. Several had tweets saying they were in school and ranged from 13-17. Yes 13, describing fellatio etc.

    What happened next? ONTD_AI decided to trend Glambertsarebats@tcrazy because of that trend NOT because of the dj thing.

    Another interesting fact, about 5 of them were from Texas, where this dj apparently co-hosts.

    The acts are batsh@tcrazy but the people seem to be totally random now, and ONTD_AI in particular are the biggest most vocal, explicit, overbearing and rowdy stans of all so it hardly is a refection of “groups” but personality. They may be younger, hipper and funnier but they are certainly batshi@t-stirrers. jmho The poor guy is stuck with this insanity for awhile I guess.

    • 2009 November 8
      Sherena permalink

      ontd_ai is fine. They understand radio etiquette. They understand what to and what not to tweet to people who can actually influence Adam’s career. I think it helps that they’re fans of all Idols.

      • 2009 November 8
        Samantha permalink

        Well I’m kinda sure Mr. and Mrs. Lambert and Mr and Mrs Allen , and Katy Allen might disagree on their common sense if they ever saw this video manip by ONTD_AI of their kids “with” each other. OH, and there was that nice porn manip of Adam’s Elle photo shoot last week and countless more and slash porn fanfics.

        Not to mention little hyjinks (dnk how the hell to spell that)…ONTD_AI establishing false identity Twitter accouts as Kris Allen and Neil Lambert….and the list is endless. ALL fans are out of control IMO.

        • 2009 November 8
          TopIdol permalink

          These people should use their video editing skills for good, not EVIL.

          Jesus christ. That is beyond wrong. I feel like I committed a crime just by watching it.

          • 2009 November 8
            Samantha permalink

            LOL IKR? I was not invoking hyperbole with my comments. That is the TIP of the iceberg lol. There’s a vaultload of that crap. Last week there was a manip of Adam’s Elle shoot that resulted in well, let’s just say a completely realistic porn shot with a microphone. And you read the comments right? Their “imaginary” 4th wall = FAIL

            …outta here bye

            • 2009 November 8
              TopIdol permalink

              I don’t have ONTD_AI access. I think all their “good” threads are locked down.

          • 2009 November 8
            Lauren permalink

            OMG! Have you seen this? It’s a a bunch of Miley pics to FYE! Scaryyyyyyy stuff!

            • 2009 November 9
              8sourcandy permalink

              I don’t what is going on, but this is like the 10th video to emerge this weekend set to “For your Entertainment.” Either it’s a clever marketing ploy or people are really getting into this song.

        • 2009 November 8
          Nic permalink

          Yeah, I’m a member of ontd_ai. Get your facts straight. That manip came out of a community on LJ called hooplamagnet, which is an Adam-only community, and that video came from someone who also goes to GossipCandy. Everyone knows what GossipCandy is like.

        • 2009 November 9
          8sourcandy permalink

          Thanks Samantha,

          This is HOT!

        • 2009 November 9
          Sherena permalink

          Eh. They do some crazy stuff but nothing that actually hurts anyone’s career. They mostly keep it on the down low. I don’t really keep track of them all that much but that’s the impression I get.

  28. 2009 November 8
    Amy, 20 permalink

    I reply to Billy aplogising on behalf of Adam’s SANE fans and that HurChaRealGood wackjob starts harassing ME! I didn’t even comment her WTF lmao.

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      Are you serious? What a whack job.

  29. 2009 November 8
    Bluewave permalink

    Insulting Z100=suicide. And I don’t see FYE anywhere on the Itunes charts… not good for him.

    It looks like the Glamsparklecows are in full force tonight. Claymates 2.0 indeed. It looks like Adam is headed into a direction that he’s not prepared to tread… too bad for him.

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      I actually just checked iTunes out of curiosity a few minutes ago.

      For Your Entertainment was #48 yesterday and is now at #68. Live Like We’re Dying (which has been out longer) is at #77. Time for Miracles is at #150.

      • 2009 November 8
        itune permalink

        You don’t want to go there. iTunes has been messed up with that single since Tuesday dropping it off the charts, then returning spontaneously in the 40’s off and on for days. Another drama. RCA has a press release or something saying it won’t start promos until next week. TFM soundtrack hasn’t even been in the theaters yet. SRSLY, PLEASE don’t go there it’s just too much to attempt to bring on lol. It’s all over the fan sites and Rickeys and MJ and every other blog on the net (eyeroll)

        • 2009 November 8
          Isidra permalink

          I do think it’s fair to say that right now FYE hasn’t really lived up to expectations, considering its low position every time the chart stabilized. It hasn’t even done as well as TFM, which stayed in the top 10 for nearly a week despite being a much, much worse song. (Not blaming Lambert for that, by the way.)

          But I definitely wouldn’t write FYE off yet. Promotion will be the key (as we’ve been seeing with LLWD.)

          The problem is though, with the crazier Adam fans pulling this stuff even before the promo, it could mean that this craziness ends up overshadowing said promo. He ought to be remembered for his music, not his crazy fanbase.

          • 2009 November 8
            TopIdol permalink

            Like I said, I actually like For Your Entertainment. It has the potential to be a moderate hit…unless the batshit crazy Glamberts continue to fuck it all up. And they shouldn’t worry, I’m sure the GaGa-Lambert song will get a ton of airplay. I bet it will be the second release.

            • 2009 November 8

              I might’ve liked it slightly had it not been for the overmachinated noise that basically consumes the rest of it.

            • 2009 November 9
              8sourcandy permalink

              I love that song. :)

      • 2009 November 9
        8sourcandy permalink

        That’s the general numbers. The pop charts have them at more favorable placement with Kris at 30 and Adam at 33.

        • 2009 November 9

          Oh nice for both of them. Got a link? Love seeing Kris that high, and you and Lauren being sane lamb skanks/glamberts/whatever is softening the adherence to him, thankfully, and restoring me to my pro-Kradam (as in the two of them as friends/artists, not the homoerotic portmanteau shippage) days.

          One has to wonder–if they listed a chart with every current music artist….Just where would Hokey Gokey wind up? Meheheh.

          • 2009 November 9
            8sourcandy permalink

            James,

            For the record, AGAIN. I am not now, or ever was a Glambert or a Lamskank. I am a fan of both Adam and Kris (Adam, more so). They are friends and I respect that. Having said that, the homo stuff about them is hot, even though it’s not true.

            Gokey would be last on any list.

  30. 2009 November 8
    Terri permalink

    ::rolls eyes-shakes head:: I’m a proud Glambert and I have not twittered nor e-mailed any radio station to play Adam. I have called my local stations once a day to request it, most don’t have it yet. I believe that like most fan-bases, there are always the crazy few…and of course THEY get the attention!

  31. 2009 November 8
    Jenna permalink

    “Do you hear that? This man is not going to play his music EVER if you keep spamming him. Can you take a hint?”

    Bulls**t! This man is going to play Adam’s music like a good little boy as soon as RCA delivers the payola check. He may rag on Adam in between songs, but play him he will.

  32. 2009 November 8
    Brenda permalink

    I’ll give the claymates the excuse that they didn’t know better than to bombard stations with requests, but they were the guinea pigs in idolworld, they were a lesson on what mistakes can be made vis a vis radio. They were the first but not the worst.

  33. 2009 November 8
    Linda permalink

    Glambert was the original term coined for all fans of Adam Lambert, and was not a ‘club’ or ‘group’. I find it so sad that different fan groups fight with each other, with some using Glambert, others are LambSkanks, etc. – there are many, many groups out there loving Adam Lambert. And some people belong to more than one group and don’t care to be labeled at all – they just sincerely wish to discuss their chosen ‘Idol’ with other like-minded individuals. Why would one fan group try to trend the ‘Glambertsarebats@tcrazy’ because of some crazy teenagers? I assume that by that they contend that the ‘Glamberts’ have no connection with them? Can’t we all just get along? Perhaps Adam’s DonorsChoose.org charity competition, which was supposed to just be a way to encourage more people to give to this worthy charity, has backfired and different groups have taken it too seriously

    • 2009 November 8

      No disrespect to “LambSkanks”, I hope. After all, I created that name ;) .

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      I had no idea Fanilows thought that term was offensive until I approached a couple of them at Mohegan Sun because I wanted a photo of their “Ultimate Manilow” GLOWSTICK.

    • 2009 November 8
      Samantha permalink

      Yes, your assumption is correct. They completely imagine themselves disassociated in reality with the word Glambert.

      If you read their angsty tweets they flail over being associated with “THE” Glamberts. While exhibiting even worse behavior. And no, actually the AO official website started that Glambert stuff including assigning themselves numbers, being the “keeper of Adam’s” [whatever] and if you look at the Donor’s Choose Lambert page each group is broken down in donor category and comes from a different message board. But my point agrees with yours that the public calls all fans Glamberts, infighting not withstanding. It’s not just AI btw. Muse fans are even worse and assign themselves body part “keepers” AND keepers of particular stanzas and phrases in songs. SRSLY. eyeroll

      • 2009 November 8
        TopIdol permalink

        I was a big fan of Muse up until they attracted all the Twitards. Seriously pisses me off. I just really liked their music, which, in all honesty, used to be a lot better. I still need to check out their new album, but it really disappoints me how they’ve been destroyed. Hell, I’m pissed Radiohead as a song on that New Moon soundtrack. I wish all that Twihard shit would just disappear.

        • 2009 November 9
          8sourcandy permalink

          “Death Cab for Cutie” too. I saw that and went wuuuut?

  34. 2009 November 8
    jujubee permalink

    Lurker here, surfacing to ask when this blog became a site where kris allen fans could come and just constantly rag on lambert and his fans? Seriously, this site used to be a great, snarky, fun site that spread the snark around. Now, all it is is a lambert pile on site that has become increasingly mean spirited….there is plenty in idoldom to snark on, including the 12 other finalists, prior contestants, and this year’s winner…every idol from every season has bat shit crazy fans that do bat shit crazy things…let’s spread the snark around a little

    • 2009 November 8
      TopIdol permalink

      Don’t worry, Jujubee…these are just the dark times before Season 9 starts up.

      I’ve been trying to spread my love/snark around to the other contestants lately and blog about other stuff, trust me. And please, don’t lurk! Come comment.

      (And check out the Gokey post from a couple of days ago…)

      • 2009 November 8
        jujubee permalink

        thanks topidol…oh i read the gokey post…which then, against by better judgment, resulted in my listening to the song….that was such cruel and unusual punishment that you may owe me damages

        • 2009 November 8
          TopIdol permalink

          It’s why I added the link to Cartman singing Poker Face AND a photo of Jon Hamm!! I didn’t want to hurt anyone.

          I tried. I was hoping people might not just bother with the song and only read the lyrics, because they give you everything you need to know.

    • 2009 November 8
      deez permalink

      Jujubee- Sorry you feel that way. TI is right, though…not much else to do in the “dark days”. I’m a fan of Kris and sort of migrated here b/c what you described feels like every other blog (Mj’s, Rickey’s etc…) except that Kris gets piled on there (so I hope this isn’t turning into the reverse situation). It was due to the fans that I don’t go to those blogs much anymore. I honestly do try not to belittle Adam (b/c I do like him…just NOT Glamberts!) Feel free to snark about Kris. We enjoy funny mean (just not “Mean” mean)…unless you’re talking about Gokey, of course ;) .

      Stick around…Sourcandy, Sherena, and Lauren need some back-up.

    • 2009 November 9
      8sourcandy permalink

      Welcome Jujubee,

      With the occasional feminizing of his name aside, I have never really been offended by anyone’s comments. I have disagreed. But, never offended. I rather listen to honest feedback from smart and funny people then over-hyped praise from over invested fans that act as though he is their property. It also helps me to keep a sane perspective on all of this.

  35. 2009 November 8
    Lauren permalink

    This site reposted your blog Top Idol!!!!! This is a crazy Glambert site!

    http://aitm.forumotion.com/the-glamrock-god-office-f21/glamrock-god-news-desk-t766.htm#1258

  36. 2009 November 8
    Margie permalink

    This is like watching a car crash….can’t look away

    I started out liking both Adam & Kris, but not going to lie…Adam’s fans have completely ruined it for me

  37. 2009 November 8
    lynn permalink

    Wow..what a lot to read! I have to agree with some comments above. Adam fans need to slow down! Like someone said it definitely did not help Clay Aiken! It really turned off a lot of DJ’s. But I will say take heart! A lot of radio is based on payola and believe me RCA is going to pay big time to promote Adam. He WILL be heard on the radio for sure! For some DJ’s who make their own decisions..time will tell. But I think Adam will be everywhere on radio. It does seem a shame though that there are so many good artist out there who never get heard because most radio is not by request. It is preprogramed ahead of time and who to play is predecided by the powers that be..not by the listeners. Sad but true.

  38. 2009 November 8
    z100 ain't the 1 to be jacking around with... permalink

    lambert fans are too flippant and dismissive of the damage that can be done from this type of behavior with the number 1 station in the us…. you cannot justify the immature behavior of fans tweeting and spamming the dj with ”every other fanbase has crazy fans too, so it’s not that deep”… it is that deep people, because adam, whther your mind can conceive it or not, needs z100 very much in his corner if he wants to see his songs get any kind of substantial play and saturation across top 40 radio… the sheer arrogance, ignorance and juvenile attitude many lambert fans exhibit to justify their behavior across the web is very disturbing, and off putting… there is a psychotic form of groupthink at play here that has turned countless people off, and has turned them away from taking adam seriously because of the just crass and rude, and just plain nastiness the fans dish out, but cannot seem to take w/o labeling everyone a homophobe for not wanting anything to do with adam… you want to test your theory of no harm being done to adam by this ridiculous spamming to z100, and the other batshit crazy stuff being perpetrated – keep spamming… spam the hell outta the dj, hell, call elvis duran up and harass him, do it to your heart’s content… while the rest of us just sit back and laugh at your stupidity, and adam’s prospects of a credible music career sink like the titantic… carry on..

  39. 2009 November 9
    Dallas permalink

    If you look at his @replies , only THREE twitterers responded negatively to his remarks including the hurcha person. All other @replies were “apologies”. Meanwhile he continued to tweet about it for the past 24 hrs and nothing else. Including claiming he was so “SHOCKED” at the emails and TWEETS he received. The guy’s full of it. The Twitter energy does not support his claims and likely neither does his email support the use of the word “spam”. He’s from Texas? In Texas we say “All hat, no cattle”.

  40. 2009 November 9
    girl from mars permalink

    It’s amazing that these psychos aren’t content to just sit back after AI is over and watch what happens with their favorite. No, they have to do stupid shit that doesn’t work like street teaming and spamming radio stations. There’s a guiding principle in my field called Best Practices- we have to use methods that have been scientifically proven to be effective. It largely makes sense, you wouldn’t want to waste your time carrying out an entire intervention that has been proven ineffective in the past. Following that, there have been 8 seasons of AI so far. Did spamming and street teaming result in unparalleled success for any of the Idols? Hell to the no. Has it contributed to their failure? Most likely. At best, it’s not helping them succeed, at worst, it’s causing them to fail.

  41. 2009 November 9
    annie permalink

    I never thought there would be a fan group crazier than the Claymates …but along cam Glamberts….boy was I wrong

    I love Adam’s voice but so many (thankfully not all) of his fans are obnoxious and can’t seem to understand that NOT every one worships Adam

  42. 2009 November 9
    Mona permalink

    Sorry not to spam you but ya’ll realize Lambert quit college to WORK and perform and for Kris it was a part time thing. (nothing wrong with that). You’ve heard the expression that artists about artists NEEDING to do their art, right? So how does this make Lambert some kind of poser? If Kris was so driven to be a musician all these years he would have been being one. Pretty simple imo.

    Promise no more tarding now “)

  43. 2009 November 9
    kimberly permalink

    you know what, mona? there are a million hard-working kids trying to get a break that have worked as hard as adam, perhaps even harder. it doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to continue working. i knew that was going to come up — adam isn’t entitled just because he tried to get a break in theatre over the years. most people don’t know about adam’s so-called struggles. he’s got to prove himself now and he’s got to win over america. i can see he’s won you over by your response. no reverse fantarding here, just how i see it.

    • 2009 November 10
      Mona permalink

      Kimberly, just balancing out the tarding, friend :)

      You didn’t address Kris’s complete lack of working in the business OR ON HIS MUSIC that he’s so compelled to do….other than a couple part time gigs (and driving to audition to idol on a lark) yet winning “you” over. That’s ok, though. He’s a nice kid.

  44. 2009 November 10
    Mona permalink

    OMG OMG nobody’s gonna buy the album with that cover and ALL THE DJ’S HATE ADAM FANS AND HE’S GONNA FAIL THEY’RE SO ALL POWERFUL.

    Meanwhile. This morning, after itunes had his single offline for 4 hours last night and came back with the actual album promo:

    Single : 36 on all genre ,20 on pop.

    Album : 10 on all genre , NUMBER ONE on pop chart, passing MJ.

    Lambert picked up 7 spins yesterday alone, and is moving along very nicely and it seems the cray fan was correct. Billyboy is just a record spinner.

    • 2009 November 10
      Mona permalink

      sorry, I don’t know how my ^^comment landed “here” I just filled in the leave a reply box.

    • 2009 November 10
      kimberly permalink

      I’m speaking about what they need to do now. I do like Kris. I like Adam as well. It’s just the Adam fantard hyperbole that gets to me.

      The insular Idol world is not the real world.

  45. 2009 November 9
    TopIdol permalink

    Well, I just think he would be the obvious choice this year, that’s all.

    And yes, you should start watching “Mad Men” because its incredible. And now you have until July to catch up. It was amazing tonight. Made me cry. Oh, so good.

  46. 2009 November 9
    kimberly permalink

    I watched Mad Men when it first aired and kept losing track of it. I went to a show last night with my sister, her husband and my hubby — Bob Newhart of all people. Sis had bought the tickets last minute on a whim. The guy is pretty funny. An example of how loving your work, keeps you young. I digress …

    I had asked my sister if I could borrow her DVD season 1 of Mad Men. Unfortunately, a friend is borrowing it at the moment. I might just buy it myself. I spend money mindlessly on other crap, might as well spend it on something worthwhile.

    I love shows that can make you cry. Anything that can move me emotionally is what good TV is all about. Out of Africa stills leaves me sobbing like a baby. Simple human themes played out so beautifully and tragically.

    Oh, and as far as, Glamberts and radio DJs, I felt from day one that the OTT fans would love Adam to death (career-wise). I don’t know what the future holds for Adam or any other artist/actor/performer. It’s really luck, hard work and clicking with the buying public. Saying you’re not a glambert in one breath and then saying Adam is going to be HUGE in the next, makes you darn close to a Glambert in my book. It’s the blind declaration of something that no one can control or predict that gets to me and my mind immediately conjures up images of Glamberts — and now thanks to Top Idol’s Halloween pictures I will have a clear and haunting image of them for all of time. ::shudders::

    Like James, I do wish on FYE that Adam’s vocals were a bit more pronounced, instead of somewhat background to that organ, accordion, synth sound. All in all the songs not bad.

    I will say in all honesty that Kris Allen has been working hard. While Kris has been “working” radio, Adam’s been “working” the red carpet. Adam with Katy Perry might be a thrill for Glamberts and Adam fans, but perhaps the “celebrity” exposure turns off the rest of America. Got to work for it, no matter who the fans think you are …

  47. 2009 November 9
    TopIdol permalink

    Like I’ve always believed: Kris Allen wants to make music. Adam Lambert wants to be famous.

  48. 2009 November 9
    kimberly permalink

    “Like I’ve always believed: Kris Allen wants to make music. Adam Lambert wants to be famous.” — TOP IDOl

    EXACTLY! Kris’s album is amazing. No fantarding about — It’s damn good.

  49. 2009 November 9
    Mona permalink

    Whoa. A little harsh and not descriptive of the known facts regarding actual “work”. Allen is a low key musician, yes and Lambert is a performance loving professional singer/actor. Allen hates that stuff and Lambert loves it. That does not diminish the 17 years he’s spent professionally working with his head down and his discovered love of creating the theatrics of The Zodiac Show. Why don’t his prior endeavors count as “work”? He stipulates he quit piano young and needs writing assistance. Allen’s one self penned song Red Guitar was rewritten by a pro also. He said so.

    Lambert’s label and his collaborators are the ones stanning him big time. He interviewed on the “red carpet” that he’s just a guy who was on t.v. and honored.

    Kimberly are you asserting that after 2012 REQUESTED Lambert to do the
    Soundtrack before he was even in the top two, that now he should have avoided attending the promotions? Sorry that makes no sense to me. I think you’re assuming facts not in evidence. There is a very long LA Times four part interview with Lambert about his solo life from age 19 singing on a cruise ship and his career and personal choices along the way. All have been fact checked lol.

    Tarding is wearysome, yes. But I think we see some reverse-tarding going on here. :)

  50. 2009 November 9
    TopIdol permalink

    I never said he didn’t work hard. I just think he considers fame more of his artform than the actual music.

  51. 2009 November 11
    rehabilitard permalink

    Wow Mona, way too much tarding. TI is not a tard site. Chill.

  52. 2009 November 9
    Wino permalink

    maybe thats why he (adam) missed the marked on his album cover.

  53. 2009 November 9
    8sourcandy permalink

    Top Idol
    The reason why comparisons of these two performers always ignite debate is because there is a hypothesis that they are trying to achieve the same thing. Just because the music industry clumps them together, assigning them categories in which units determine their success doesn’t mean that the art or its process is the same.

    Clearly, Kris, the musician is working towards writing good music. For, him the artistry lies in the notes and words he conjures up in a studio. He has stated that how he sings a song is not that important, it’s about the song itself. So, yes I agree it’s about the music for him.

    Suggesting that Adam is a fame-whore is completely ridiculous and lazy on your part. Have you ever seen or read an interview of his? Adam is a showman. His artistry lies in interpreting the music using his voice and performance style. Adam doesn’t just hear songs—he sees them. The writing and recording of a song is one step, the performance is the objective. The video is the objective. The interaction with the audience is the objective. Bringing his vision, not just his sound to life IS the art form. He is not alone in this approach. Lady GaGa and Pink are both engaging in this hybrid marriage of music and performance art. It is compelling and stimulating. Some people get it. Some people don’t. Not everyone will.

    Personally, I am excited about this new approach to music. We have had two decades of nothing but plaid shirts and hip-hop, I am soooo ready for something new.

    BTW: Feel free to call yourself a homophobe and hater :)

  54. 2009 November 9
    8sourcandy permalink

    Because THAT album cover will perpetuate his fame. Wino, have you be drinking?

  55. 2009 November 9
    8sourcandy permalink

    Kimberly,

    “Amazing” may be over stating it a bit considering several songs where sung in the wrong key, but I do agree that it is a good first album and there are at least three to four songs that I suspect will do very well on the charts. “The Truth” and “Written All Over My Face” are my favoites so far.

  56. 2009 November 10
    deez permalink

    Well…I don’t know about all this. There are different paths to success. I don’t know if I’d call Adam a “fame-whore” (at least not now) but I do think that fame is something he wants. That doesn’t mean he’s not talented to go along with it. I don’t think Kris cares about people screaming and fainting over him. I think he wants to make a living doing what he loves. (that’s what they are both doing).

    If Adam’s fame starts to outshine anything he’s actually done to deserve it, well, then he will be in good company, (but maybe that’s what he wants…who knows? ) Getting what you want out of life isn’t a bad thing(even if it’s just “being famous for being famous”), as long as you can stay grounded. That will be hard to do. Some fans are convinced that he’s already an international SUPERSTAR (huh?)…he’s not dumb enough to buy into his own hype just yet…I hope that’s a pitfall he avoids. I may be wrong, but I think Kris will have an easier time of it. Firstly, he doesn’t really have any “hype”, lol…secondly, his family and pre-Idol friends seem to be with him at every turn. No-one like your little brother to call you out if you start acting like a jerk.

    Maybe Adam needs less Katy Perry and more Neil? ( That’s debatable…nothing tangible has REALLY happened yet for either of these guys)

  57. 2009 November 10
    kimberly permalink

    Amazing in IDOL context. Is that better? The wrong key? In your opinion. I might have issues with Kris’s upper register at times, but I can say the same about Adam’s. I think Allison has the best vocals. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard her sing a bum note.

    I don’t think Mona really cares what my response is on the subject if it isn’t verbatim to what she wrote.

  58. 2009 November 11
    8sourcandy permalink

    Yesterday I was in a pissy mood because everywhere I went to read reactions to Kris’ Album I was met with annoying Kris-tarding attitudes implying Adam is shit and Kris is king. I am sooooo tired of the incessant comparisons—it ruined the entire album release for me. Both, Kris and Adam are talented and BOTH have a lot to offer to the music industry. But, Kris’ success isn’t contingent on Adam failing. And, Adam’s success isn’t contingent on Kris failing. The fact that they like and respect each other, as much as they do, indicates that they are probably BOTH good, decent people that have the SHARED LOVE OF MUSIC in common. As, all of us here on TOP IDOL do.

    If you are interested in Adam’s personal philosophy about FAME and his art. You should read LA Times article by Ann Powers.

    (not sure if the link works. I don’t know how to embed links.)

  59. 2009 November 11
    TopIdol permalink

    I did read the LA Times interview from the other day. I can link it if necessary.

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