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The Curious World of Faith Builders International Ministries

February 14, 2009

Please read the following information I have received from a former FBIM member. It’s a first-hand account of someone who spent several years in Faith Builders International Ministries.

Please respect the anonymity of the person who sent me this information. Their main intention is to expose much of the wrongdoing which has gone on at this organization. Faith Builders is no stranger to controversy, and much of the information I have been supplied with can often be backed up by the public history offered by Pastors Jeff and Robin Pruitt on the church’s website.

I have not altered the facts given to me in any such manner as to distort the writer’s message. I have kept it in first-person and have only edited it for clarity and to protect the author’s identity. Because of Danny Gokey’s involvement, the Faith Builders organization, as well as the Sophia’s Heart Organization, may receive more media attention. Those who may be swayed to join or contribute to (whether directly or indirectly) FBIM because they are fans of Gokey and the show, well, hopefully they will read this post before writing a check.

Am I trying to destroy an American Idol contestant’s career? No. That’s not my intention whatsoever. This is a tiny blog in the great big interweb. But I am easily disturbed and disgusted when I hear stories about people being taken advantage of in the name of religion. I often make fun of devoutly religious Idol contestants on this blog, but that does not mean I disrespect people’s beliefs. I think the world would have fewer problems if we just took things less seriously! And I believe faith, if you have it, is a personal sort of thing and has nothing to do with MONEY. There is a fine line between tithing and grifting, and way too often, you see congregations and their leaders crossing this line in obvious ways. 

(And if you think FBIM doesn’t absolutely adore money, just read this gem. Sadly, material prosperity through faith seems to be a popular vehicle for churches to get their congregations motivated these days. And these troubled economic times have helped draw in a larger audience in many congregations, following a historical trend. But this often can be yet another way for church’s to take advantage of their members who are desperately trying to live on a budget. There is often a “more you give, the more the Lord will return” mentality in today’s megachurches, and this translates into a message urging members to give more to their church, and this often means “give more money.”  If you believe in God, do you really think he’s maintaining an Excel spreadsheet tallying up every human being’s tithings?)

A History of FBIM in Wisconsin

My story is based on wanting to tell the truth about the unfortunate and unchristian things that happen in this ministry.

I was asked to leave the worship team because I did not fit a specific image of youth. Because of this, I also left the church. I know what the Word of God says and what it does not say — There is no condemnation, there is only love. There is also no need to put on a show, and Faith Builders International Ministries is one of the best Christian shows you will ever have the chance to view. Perfection, and youth are key factors to fitting in. I request to remain anonymous because I still have business contacts within FBIM. If I were to be found out, I would be harassed by members and my business would certainly suffer. This has happened to many former FBIM members who had started businesses, only to subsequently fail in their respective communities because of the words of the Pruitt Family.

During the July 4th weekend in 1989, what would be known as FBIM started in a meeting hall in Newark Township, Rock County, Wisconsin. What was first called New Ark Christian Center (as a play on the name of the hall), was started by Jerry and Gloria Pruitt. Over the next few years, they grew out of the small meeting hall and progressed to what is now the  building in Beloit, Wisconsin.

About 1996, Jerry’s son, Jeff, was leading the church’s music program and itching to start his own ministry. He left his father’s church and launched his own in a Madison school building. Jeff’s first church lasted less than one year, and by his own admission, it was not his calling from God. Pruitt returned for a short time, only to later once again be called to start a ministry in Milwaukee. Jeff’s church started in a park, and later went through phases in a Howard Johnson, an elementary school, and the Four Points Sheraton Hotel in Milwaukee.

In 2001, Jerry Pruitt’s daughter Barb, left Beloit to venture to the Phoenix, Arizona area, reportedly due to the lack of good men in the area. Jerry Pruitt addressed the congregation “I can’t let my daughter walk with turkey’s when she can fly with eagles.” Within 1 year, Jerry Pruitt told the Beloit congregation he needed to move to Arizona and that his son Jeff would run both Wisconsin churches. Jerry Pruitt’s move to Arizona triggered the first marked division within the Faith Builders congregation. Within 6 months, 50% of the members of Faith Builders either moved to Arizona, or left because the new ways of the younger Pruitt were not friendly to those over 30. The focus of the music became oriented to hip-hop and rap, a rapid departure from the traditional Gospel styles of music.

During this time, Terry Morehouse was hired to run the business aspect of the church. Morehouse came in after being a top regional manager of Gander Mountain, one of the nation’s largest sporting goods retailers. Terry was also an experienced motivational speaker, often speaking to executives at large corporations, including Microsoft. It was clear at that time that the church was setting them up to be a “mega-business” and they needed a business acumen to support and achieve these goals. A year after being hired as the Business Administrator, the 43-year-old Morehouse married the sweet 19-year-old keyboard player. Nowhere was the thought was given to the lack of appropriateness, even though Morehouse and the young Rachel had known each other for 3 years prior to their marriage.

In 2003, Jeff was given the call to become the pastor at 7 churches in the area. Within a year, he had absorbed a South Milwaukee ministry which had been renamed Faith Builders Milwaukee South. This church was 100% Hispanic. This church was sold and it is no longer part of FBIM, but the profits [from the sale] are nowhere to be found, and the reason for disbanding the church was never mentioned to the congregation or designated church leaders.

It was also around 2003 that the giving envelopes were changed to state “even though we ask where you would like to direct your giving, Faith Builders International Ministries reserves the right to direct funds to whichever ministry it would like.”

From 2005-2007, Pastor Jeff Pruitt had a very prominent local TV show called Going Beyond Limitations. This show was supported by the Beloit membership. During this time, the Milwaukee church was raising money for a multimillion dollar church building and renovation. Going Beyond Limitations was broadcast daily in the Rockford, Chicago and Milwaukee metropolitan areas. For some reason, without notice to the givers, the TV show was cancelled and the monies donated to the show were diverted to other areas.

(Going Beyond Limitations focused on many disabled groups & individuals, yet there had been no consideration given to close captioning the show, which was required for Jeff Pruitt’s intended audience.)

The problems at FBIM are not new. In the last 5 years, two lead pastors have been forced to leave after questions arose concerning inappropriate sexual behavior. The latest, Neal Thomas, was made a lead pastor in Faith Builders, but within 3 months he was filing for divorce with his wife because of infidelity. It was rumored he was cheating on his wife with a member of the FBIM congregation, but Thomas disappeared with little notice and no information about his departure was given by the church. Thomas’ wife was Pastor Pruitt’s personal secretary, and she left the ministry to move with her family in Missouri. Again, no one in the ministry knew she was leaving. Like her estranged husband, she simply just disappeared.

Robin Pruitt formed the Style Ministry during the first year of being the pastor at the Beloit church. This ministry was designed to help women look their best outwardly. Robin’s husband Jeff’s preached on several occasion, women not wearing make-up can be considered a sin. (Quote from sermons given from 2002-2006). Jeff relayed that women who dress modestly (according to the Word of God) are ignorant of the meaning of the word and are as condemned as Pharisees. To fit into the Style Ministry, one should have lots of flashy clothes, jewelry and money to give to the offering. The Style Ministries would frequently have fashion shows for all the Style members to strut their stuff. If a member did not have the appropriate clothing or jewelry, pieces could be easily bought during the events from Pastor Robin Pruitt herself!

In 2005, Jerry Pruitt, the founder of the ministry, was made a Bishop by a Bishop who was not a friend or a part of FBIM. This interesting ritual was done in Beloit, although the elder Pruitt’s full-time residence was Arizona. Pruitt would occasionally return to Beloit only to find a shell of the church he had left behind. The last time I saw the senior Pruitt, there were less than 10 people left in the [Beloit] congregation who had known him when he was in charge.

In 2006, due to financial difficulties, the elder Pruitt returned to Beloit to beg for money from the congregation. The payments on the Escalade were getting behind, and the father begged the congregation, if you love your pastor you will pay for his car. He requested people line up to give $25 a month to pay for the transportation. Several members complied with Jerry Pruitt’s request and Pastor Jeff has been able to keep his beloved Cadillac Escalade.

Pruitt has even made comments about how he enjoyed driving down the “old neighborhood” to show off his car and how it is representative of the success he had achieved in life. He claims his Escalade is a blessing for his faithfulness. (I have known two widows who have left Faith Builders because they no longer receive help from the church, although their husbands had been large givers while they were alive.)

In 2007, due to many changes, many leaders left, as did many of the members. Between 2007-2009, less than 25% of the remaining members [from before this time] stayed. Faith Builders became a revolving door. People who left became focus of banning. During my membership at this church, I had wanted to contact several friends who had left, but was almost prohibited because they had spoken poorly of the pastors. The Pruitts would continually keep the focus on the internal group. Fellowship within the church is limited to 20 minutes before service at the in-house coffee shop.

My experience with Faith Builders is the closest thing I hope to ever experience to a cult. The same brainwashing techniques that are used in cults are used at Faith Builders. I do not think that most of the members have bad intent, it just happens one way or another. After I left, I was informed that the building in Beloit is literally falling apart, but money will not be raised to fix the roof, and the building in Milwaukee has to be paid for. For a ministry that was started 20 years ago to help an area that was ‘forsaken’ (as Jerry Pruitt had stated in his vision statement), only one person who started with the church remains in the ministries. With the almost 10,000 people who have at one time called this church home, only having one person being in attendance during the lifetime of the church speaks for itself.

Recently, an FBIM member has received national attention. Dan Gokey, the paid leader of the Praise & Worship Team, is one of the Top 36 finalists on American Idol. Gokey is not the first member of the church who has appeared on American Idol, but the first one who made it past the Hollywood rounds.

Gokey started singing with FBIM Milwaukee about the same time Pruitt started the Milwaukee church. Daniel and Sophia Gokey were married in the Milwaukee church by Pruitt himself, which is indicative of Gokey’s position within the organization. Pastor Pruitt did not typically perform marriage ceremonies for average members. 

Danny Gokey was not an easy person to work with on the team. He was never on time, but in spring of 2007, the entire choir was disbanded because there were a few members who arrived late for a service. I can remember several times Dan arguing musical points with myself and others. Because of the intense structure of Faith Builders, there was no possibility to argue.

I have also seen Dan correct other experienced musicians, one who had been playing bass professionally many years before he was even born. Shortly after that particular incident, this bass player departed the church without any notice.

Gokey was very flirtatious with all the female singers. He always had a crowd and was certainly set up in the role of “lead singer.” Gokey was paid for his time, as were the others on the team. It was very clear he was a valued member that the team could not do without. His vacations were carefully planned so that replacements would always be considered adequate. In some instances, if the congregation discovered Danny was not singing, some would actually leave the service.

Gokey’s accomplishments, besides his paid position within the church, include the recording of Enter In, as well as a recording with Clint Brown. Dan also made several appearances on TBN [backed by other key musicians in FBIM].

Sophie [Danny Gokey’s deceased wife] was a sweet gal, each time that I met her.

God Bless everyone who may read this, and may God keep you safe and sound.

313 Comments leave one →
  1. Ashamed permalink
    February 11, 2010 2:23 pm

    I am personally ashamed of all that I am reading. I think it’s horrible that people judge people period let alone from a source of gossip. This author has no clue what she is talking about. I suggest you get your “facts” straight before posting something like this. People tend to forget the glory of forgiveness that we receive from the Lord. I bet I could give a laundry list of sins that this author has committed and write a blog about her as well but I know that we are sinners by nature on a daily basis. I will not judge a person by their sins especially since I don’t walk their life. This author needs to get herself checked quickly and get a life instead of wasting time bashing something she knows nothing about.

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  3. Edward Veneman permalink
    September 21, 2009 1:27 am

    many years ago my wife and I were members at believers faith as it was called then. Went there for 2 years when we were made aware of the total control the Pruitt’s had over their members. My wife asked Barb on time to see where the money went and was told that that was none of her business. Pruitt himself told her that something stinks in Denmark. needless to say we left and feel lucky we did so.

  4. nobodiesbusiness permalink
    August 17, 2009 11:53 pm

    This is why i no longer attend a church. Christ said to love one another . I dont see his teaching being practiced on this page. It breaks my heart to know that the church has resorted to hurtful behaviors that belittle one another. God i sno respecter of persons, all are the same. I haven’t seen that attitude in church and i chose to stay away from such negativity. I’m not even going to comment further shame.

  5. Jeff Webber permalink
    August 17, 2009 7:33 pm

    I went to this church before they changes there name when I was in my 20s … There a TOTAL cult! Jeff Pruitt is a Catholic bashing FAT f@#ck’n bigoted ass h@le!

    You fat uneducated retarded ass (Pruitt) if it wasn’t for the catholic faith you would be praying to the East … He is the reason why I will NEVER go to a church founded in the USA … There is NO unaccountably! They hypnosis there members in to submission with crap like “so sayth the Lord” and “If you not with me your against God” … Basically he (Pruitt) is after the big $$$ … I mean whats wrong with being humble and meek? I am sorry if you are spending more on your tailored Armani suit that your flock makes in a year your a copmplete scum bag!

  6. anonymously yours permalink
    July 11, 2009 3:13 pm

    The love of God is in FBIM,

    nuff said.

  7. carmel rich permalink
    May 26, 2009 9:52 am

    The church will never be understood by unbeliever’s. It never has been and never will be. The leaders are not perfect, as the leaders in the bible were not perfect. But we know one that was and is, Jesus Christ.
    Believe what you will, but all will stand before Him one day and look Him in the eye and try to justify your actions while on this earth.
    This blog is from a disgruntle person that can’t sing, and couldn’t take it. Notice she didn’t leave till they dismissed her. Come on doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure this out!

    • Petunia permalink
      June 2, 2009 9:40 pm

      I was a member at FBI…and what was written is true to fact…that church is all about the money and how much food can be stuffed in the pastor face and his family. I wouldn’t give money to a church if my life depended on it!!!
      all this 10% tithing is a bunch of BS…my needs come first and that’s that!!! And some of those women going there look like hookers that have a day off for church!!!

  8. in the know permalink
    May 19, 2009 4:38 pm

    anyway – rumor has it that danny gokey’s father got married last week to a jewish woman… service performed by danny’s uncle

  9. David Taylor permalink
    May 15, 2009 5:19 pm

    What a crock. An honest person doesn’t hide their identity. I’m sure neither Danny Gokey nor his church are perfect but this is so transparent – it’s nothing but sour grapes by this “anonymous” source.

  10. Jess permalink
    May 14, 2009 8:56 pm

    after reading this post it took soo much for me to write this. I went to the milwaukee branch of Faith Builders and my whole experiance there was nothing short of amazing.. CULT?! be serious. Its so childish how people feed off of something thats a blessing. I’ve made many friends through this church who by the way, i still speak to and they still attend without a problem. The ONLY reason i left is because i was having family issues and need to go back home, and even with that, so many people in that church were behind me 100% in anything i needed. This church is how a church should be, so before you go digging into things that are a blessing…you all need to check yourselves!

  11. Susie permalink
    May 6, 2009 1:59 pm

    Sounds to me like you are jealous and a very vindictive person. Why else would you try to make anyone look bad. Shame on you!!

  12. Zaimi permalink
    April 29, 2009 2:47 pm

    Let me see….David Cook had a brother with cancer. NOPE! No Hype there!

    I like Danny’s voice and I really don’t give a rats patuti about the church.If the church is that bad, the writer should write to the authorities and report the findings and let them (the church) be investigated.

    If we condemn/dislike everyone for what they believe or don’t believe in, none of us will have any friends or people we actually like!

  13. Lori permalink
    April 9, 2009 4:08 pm

    Unfortunately I saw these type of ministries in South Africa, who prayed on people who were sad and depressed. No one seemed to notice that the pastors had matching Mercedes while pleading poverty to the rest of the congretation. It is brainwashing and I looked at the FBIM website where it spouts things like the “power of the God invaded the room and told Pruitt what to do”! My relative is a vicar in the UK and he has never in 25 years had god do that to him!! It is hype, it is a money making business for the pastors and unfortunately the people who truly want a home to worship and feel safe in are being terribly taken advantage of. This isn’t a dig at the worshippers as their hearts are true and they are looking for guidance, but the people who take advantage of that, i.e. the pastors of these evangelical churches should be ashamed of their greed at the expense of others. Danny Gokey is a great singer and it is very sad that he lost his beautiful wife so young. I do admire him for going forward and showing people that you shouldn’t give up, and for not losing his faith, but I think that was entirely up to him and his love for his wife. Not some pastor who wants to cash in on any chance to make money!

  14. Chad permalink
    April 9, 2009 3:49 pm

    I’m sorry, but this whole article is obviously from someone who is bitter at the church. I’ve never heard of the church, but I don’t have to to know a bitter person when I see one. And blog atheist, don’t flatter yourself to think that anyone will think any less of Danny Gokey or Christ because of it. It is irrelevant except to show your own ignorance on spiritual matters and things of God. The points made are petty and trivial. Let’s take a look at them:

    Appropriateness of marriage: So what if he was older and she was 19. It may not be your cup of tea, but it’s hardly a sin. Not knowing the details of the relationship, who are we to judge?

    Giving to the church: Oh, you sound so holy with your attack here but you’re really just a stingy person who doesn’t understand the principal of reciprocity and giving to the Lord. Every cynic and atheist loves to talk about how the church just wants your money. This is because you wrongly think that church should be free and that we don’t need to support our missionaries and pastors. Yet you think nothing of giving tons of your money to companies (who indeed want your money). Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Read about the tithe in the old testament. Ask yourself why it was a tenth? Ever see the correlation of the 10 commandments and giving back the law, a tenth to the Lord, aknowledging Christ’s gift of grace? Of course not. Because some things are spiritually discerned. But how much you give is always up to you. As Paul indicated, the Lord loves a cheerful giver. It’s not like you’re whipped or something. So get over it. You should be giving as to the Lord anyway. I find it shameful that the father of this pastor had to beg this stingy church just so he could make a car payment. This should not be happening in a large church and leads me to believe they don’t know how to preach properly on tithing. But who cares that it was an escalade. God’s top brass should be driving a merc if you ask me. And you’re just plain wrong to think that all Christians should be poor. Ask yourself what happened to the very expensive gifts of the three kings to Jesus’ family? Jesus wore an expensive one piece outfit that soldiers cast lots for and never lacked anything. Or why was Job, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Soloman filthy rich if God loves Christians to be poor? Wealth and prosperity are always described as blessings from the Lord. Why don’t I pray that God makes you poor if you think that God’s wants Christians poor. And, the tither’s blessing is well known. Read Malachi 3:10. Agreed we should seek the giver not the gift, but make no mistake that wealth is a blessing from the Lord.

    Music quality: don’t get upset just because you were terrible and Danny was passionate about singing quality music to the Lord. If you’re terrible, get out of the choir until you get better. Just because it’s church, doesn’t mean that everyone should sing. We all have different gifts. And you’re just grasping at straws with your flirtatious insinuations. Nothing you said makes me think anything less of him. Also, if people showed up just to hear Danny, well at least they showed up and listened to the gospel being preached. Maybe in time they will want to come for the right reasons.

    Makeup, etc: I am positive this was taken out of context and probably meant as a joke by the pastor to say that it’s ok for women to wear makeup and quite frankly that some of them need it.

    Two widows and sexual immorality: This is perhaps the only legit point you made, but it is completely without any proof and quite frankly your motives are suspect. If true, these should have been addressed by the church and not shoved under a carpet. But remember, the Christian faith is built on Jesus blood and HIS righteousness. If you look to men, even Christian leaders, you will be dissapointed. Our best works are filthy rags to God. The difference between the atheist and the Christian is that the Christian is forgiven and saved by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, God is not finished with any of us yet and our right standing does not make us immune to sinful actions and deeds. But we are not under law but under grace. No doubt this church has made some mistakes, but based on your biased analysis, I certainly wouldn’t condemn them.

    • tarheel8494 permalink
      April 15, 2009 11:10 pm

      To Chad, On the contrary, I think the original article/post here was very even-handed and fair in its presentation, and did not sound like the words of somebody with a bitter axe to grind. Your attempt to discredit it in that way doesn’t ring true, especially since the rest of your lengthy response is basically a defense of prosperity gospel. You cherry pick from the old testament and gospels to try to prove that consipicuous displays of material wealth are witnesses to God’s blessing. That’s just sick. Nobody is saying that we should wish or pray for poverty for ourselves or others. But it is clear in Jesus’ teachings that the material gains of this world do not equate to spiritual gains, or to a relationship with God. Over and over Jesus emphasized this.

      So I really think you should chill on your defense of these kinds of churches. I’ve been to a couple, and have known people involved in them. They really believe this stuff, and also in strict gender conformity (which may be why the whole make-up and sexy clothes thing for women is emphasized). For those folks, it’s better to be sexually provocative and blatantly traditionally heterosexual than modest and at all gender untraditional. That might lead to homosexuality!!! Better to be dolled up like a hooker! Always hiding something or overcompensating for something, I always figured.

    • GokeyFam permalink
      May 8, 2009 2:02 am

      Chad, ur a good man 🙂

  15. ehudthelefthanded permalink
    March 25, 2009 11:59 pm

    Can you always trust what a family member says.

    • ehudthelefthanded permalink
      March 26, 2009 12:27 am

      Sorry should of used a ?.

  16. Madden permalink
    March 12, 2009 5:59 pm

    LOL! You guys are halarious! Do you think for one second that Danny is that stupid? Does he appear to be an idiot? It’s simple! Dis-gruntled former members who’s lives are in the tank and they blame their former church!

    • truth hurts permalink
      March 13, 2009 6:38 pm

      Wow…Danny may not be that stupid, but it’s obvious you are. First of all; sound it out with me…hi⋅lar⋅i⋅ous, yes that spells hilarious! lol! Oh, and dis-gruntled…sorry to burst your bubble but it is ONE word.
      I don’t blame that church for anything….I’ve learned from my mistakes; and my life is now nowhere near rock bottom…good luck to ya

    • March 15, 2009 12:01 am

      I totally agree with you on that. I still think this non factual totally bias website has done wonders for Dan. The more trash talk the more votes (is a majority of American Idol voters wrong too?) Dan gets so thank you!!! Good luck with that campaign of slander I doubt it ends up working 🙂

      • March 19, 2009 10:09 pm

        Slander is spoken, libel is written. And there’s nothing false here but you and your little niggling voice of doubt in yourself. You know that FBIM is a con, you need to admit it to yourself. Stop giving them your time and money.

        • March 21, 2009 9:45 pm

          Idletard I believe at heart you are a good person but wow that insults are so unbecoming….. Stand in the mirror and repeat after me “I am a good person and I do not need to sling unsults to validate me as a person or to give me self esteem….I can have adult conversation without reverting to mindless insults……

        • March 21, 2009 9:47 pm

          Insults again!!!! Stand in the mirror and repeat after me….I am a good person,,,,I dont need to insult others to make myslef feel worthy… I am completely able to have intelligent conversations without mindless insults to others…… Is it working Ideltard???

  17. Jim Stanley permalink
    March 11, 2009 12:34 am

    The comments here are typical of ministries that elevate personalities rather than Jesus. He said that He would build His church and that the gates of Hades would not prevail against it. The only way anyone can know that a ministry is being built by Christ is if it is in agreement with His word. Then the fruit will be the same as the fruit that He bore when He was in the world. People will be saved, restored, healed and set free. The ministers will serve the Lord and others, not themselves. People will be helped and not hurt. Let’s hope Danny will be able to see this as time goes by and use His gifts in places where the whole body functions as it should.

    • March 21, 2009 9:42 pm

      I agree with you Jim but if this is happening and lives are changing we should not ever look to the world for validation. The fact that ppl are coming and changing their lives for the better and also in turn are helping to better those around them and in their community is the best example of Christ’s love. I believe we should all study the word to show ourselves approved unto God which is what this church teaches. The Pastor frequently states that when hs preaches something outside the word than EVERYONE should leave the church and that is exactly right. I think sometimes ppl get offended and walk in that offense and try to do verbal harm to that church and its congregation and I def know that one thing the bible says is terrible and that God hates is division among is ppl. We should all try and do something about that Amen?

  18. truth hurts permalink
    March 9, 2009 12:35 am

    i was an active member of FBIM for quite a few years, and too, have witnessed many of the aforementioned examples brought up by many in this post. I simply have one message that I would love for all of the “leaders and pastors” to hear and take note of: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” You see, somewhere, truth was thrown out, greed and deception set in…i challenege everybody who is still an active member to proactively seek the kingdom and study the word for yourselves….my mistake for so long was following pastors vision and abandoning my very own.

  19. I'm a witness permalink
    March 9, 2009 12:20 am

    Wow…I spent about 5 years there, and there was so much scandal, gossip, and greed of money going on. I gave so much money when I barely had the funds to supoort my own family, out of false hope and teachings that the more money I gave them the more God would prosper me. Everything was a competition for titles. The pastor was unapproachable . He left every service through a tunnel in the back of the church to avoid having to deal with the congregation. And if you needed to talk to him for prayer you had to go through all of his security, and then they would get back to you. What a period of my life that I’m glad is over. I can honestly say my time there was the worst years of me and families life.

    • TopIdol permalink
      March 9, 2009 12:22 am

      If you want a place to tell your story, just email me:

    • GokeysFam permalink
      March 19, 2009 10:01 pm

      its so easy to blame the church for your own mistakes and failures. My husband and I were on a verge of a divorce becaus eof our own choices and actions, than GOD Faith Builders and Danny were there to lift us up in prayer and believe in us. my husband and I couldnt be happier together now… Everyone has a story. Good or bad. Its pure ignorance to blame a church for your horrible life! havent you heard of… take responsibility for your own actions? 🙂

    • GokeysFam permalink
      March 19, 2009 10:05 pm

      wow its so easy to blame the church for your own mistakes and failures. My husband and I were on a verge of a divorce because of our own choices and actions, thank GOD for Pastor Pruitt and even Danny that were there to lift us up in prayer and believe in us. My husband and I couldnt be happier together now…Why is my story so different than yours?!! Its pure ignorance to blame a church for your horrible life! havent you heard of… take responsibility for your own actions? 🙂

      • March 19, 2009 10:08 pm


        Here’s an idea – why don’t you learn to think for yourself and stop letting others do it for you? Are you a sheep? Are you so pathetic you cannot work out what to do with your life without some flim flam man telling you how to function and think?


        • March 21, 2009 9:34 pm

          Wow Idletard you insult ppl alot, I alomost wonder if you were picked on as a kid in school and shoved into lockers and now you are regressing into that mean, ugly bully you onced hate. Hears the good news you can be delivered from that lol!!! Since you dont like church apparently or God maybe Dr Phil can help….lol But seriously good things happen at that church whether or not you inslut them but the more the name of that church comes out of your mouth the more buzzs it creates and the more lives are chnaged for the better. Good job and thanks for the press for Danny and the church!!! God Bless you ,,,,and before Idletard speaks redundantly No I did not have any kool aid (I am assuming that dumb joke has something to do with cults )

        • GokeyFam permalink
          May 8, 2009 2:05 am

          didn’t I say “due to our own actions??” duh!!! it wouldn have so much esier to get a divorce and blame it on the church! yey! it was Pastor’s fault!! lol ur the idiot. with ur non educated self!! lol

          PS: how did u like Danny being Top 3?? 😉

      • March 21, 2009 9:52 pm

        I agree with you completely!!! There are so many great things coming out of this church and so many more things remain to be seen!! Thanks for standing up and keep the faith!!!!! From reading some of this statements there is so hope that needs to be spread out there and Danny is leading the way!!! Go Danny!!!

    • GokeyFam permalink
      May 8, 2009 1:57 am

      Pastor left right away after service because he had 1 hr to get to church for the next service in Milwaukee!! everyone knows that- google the addresses from beloit to Milwaukee! how long does it take??? That is why Danny would leave Beloit right after P&W so that he made it to Mil in time for P&W there and Pastor made it in time for his preaching. Pleople speal due to lack of knowledge. I dont need to clear anything up but this is a perfect example of ignorance. Yes I bet you were one of the families that gave and sat on their butts waiting for the “blessing” to come but did nothing to go get it. We still have people like that in the congregation, its like, ARE YOU LISTENNING TO THE PREACHER??!!! its that way everywhere though. We cannot judge the church for our own failures. Get ur A** up and make it happen!!!! i had to do it, so can u!!

    • GokeyFam permalink
      May 8, 2009 2:08 am

      yup, ur a witness…. to ur failures due to ur own actions!! rise up and do something for a change!! blogging about ur “horrible” time at FBIM aint gonna pay the bills people! lol

    • ohmeohmy permalink
      May 8, 2009 11:46 pm

      How large is this church?! A back tunnel? Security? Good grief. And he didn’t even talk to the congregants after church?!

  20. Scott permalink
    March 7, 2009 10:47 am

    My family and I went to Faith Builders when it firts was called New Ark Christian Center. We were one of the families who moved to Arizona with Jerry Pruitt and I can tell you that this movement is a CULT and that they have destroyed families and friendships over their supposed “spiritual authority”. I can tell you of marriages they broke up, friendships they split, finances they gouged and the guilt and manipulation they used. It is sickening. We were in the service in Arizona when Jerry said he was “going to go back to Beloit and SHAME those people into paying for Jeff’s car”. Sickening. I have more first hand information if anyone wants it.

    • March 24, 2009 11:47 pm

      I was reading your blog about Pastor Pruitt and his church.
      I am in contact with one of the Pastor’s family members but he is not talking about this subject. But, I was wondering since you’ve known Pastor Pruitt for a while now, do you know if there are any other family members that may be willing to give us their thoughts? I’d love to hear from them.
      God Bless

      • scott permalink
        March 25, 2009 3:08 pm

        I doubt you’ll get any family members to share anything with you.

        • March 25, 2009 6:53 pm

          If the right ones were asked believe me, THEY WOULD TALK!!!

  21. Iorhael permalink
    March 7, 2009 2:00 am

    David, I so appreciate your long and heartfelt comments about Faith Builders. It must have been very difficult to write what you did. I am just appalled at the anonymous article posted here and your comments as well…Though not too terribly surprised.

    Just this past Christmas my husband and I visited a very similar church in the Seattle area. We’ve been “inbetween” churches for awhile now as we haven’t been able to stomach the political and judgemental mesage of so many of them in recent years). But we wanted to just worship the Sunday before Christmas as we had other plans for Christmas Eve. Instead we were treated to basically a rock concert and pure entertainment, followed by a twenty minute sermon on how we should give to the church, as God will reward us for that in these hard economic times and into the New Year. This was essentially the Christmas message, and and given at a time when people are losing their jobs in droves and barely hanging on. We were disgusted! It was definitely a prosperity-driven church, a message which my husband and I have never agreed with. We left behind the very slick welcome package they gave us.

    Within about two week after our visit, it was in the news that this church got approval to build a *Helopad* so that the husband and wife team could travel back and forth between the two church site in Tacoma and Everett, WA! Since then, the church has put up a huge banner on their church with the Pastor’s name and web site…you can see this thing from about a mile away as you are driving from many direction toward the church. (Unfortunately this church is very close to where we live >;o!)

    It sounds like Faith Builders is set up very similarly…even has two sites and a husband-wife pastor team..this seems to be a trend.

    My husband and I met at a megachurch in Phoenix, though not one that taught the prosperity gospel and which was much more doctrinally sound than Faith Builders or this church in Seattle. However, there are pitfalls to any mega church…I went through a lot personal pain myself in the one we attended in Phoenix, even though the pastor himself was a good man and would *never* set himself up in the way Jeff Pruitt has. So David, I commend you for your courage and openess in sharing your experience.

    As for Danny, personally I’ve never been a fan of his, even when the judges started gushing over him right from the beginning. I am saddened to read that he has so bought into the teachings and cultishness of Faith Builders. And though my two personal favorites are Anoop and Scott, I really hope Adam goes far! :):)

    Footnote: My husband just told me where the location of the Faith Builders church is in Pheonix (the one that Jerry Pruitt set up)…apparently it was there when we lived there…I thought it sounded familiar…in fact it was only a few blocks from the Christian station where my husband worked. Horrors! I’m sure the station would not have approved of it too.

  22. Velour is Mighty permalink
    March 3, 2009 6:26 pm

    That’s not what the doctor said.

  23. March 3, 2009 12:01 pm

    Velour, those were goosebumbs!! WEPA!!


  24. Velour is Mighty permalink
    March 2, 2009 11:47 pm

    Danny Gokey gave me herpes

  25. February 27, 2009 2:05 am



  26. Disgusted permalink
    February 26, 2009 4:19 am

    Oh one more thing, 12 more contestants and not one of them tried to use a personal tragedy to make people think they have more talent than they really do! And at least four of them made Danny look like an amateur!


  27. Disgusted permalink
    February 26, 2009 4:13 am

    But you’re talking about it, arent’ you Disgusted??? That’s the point stupid

    No, your point was that stupid people actually believe everything they hear/read. Don’t try to change it just because it’s been successfully rebutted.

  28. February 26, 2009 12:42 am

    Oh one more thing, 12 more contestants and Danny Gokey is still the best so far!


  29. February 26, 2009 12:33 am

    But you’re talking about it, arent’ you Disgusted??? That’s the point stupid. Lol. Oh and Spinshack, when you’re The Man as I am, you don’t get 15 minute breaks, you give ’em.

    • spinshack permalink
      March 2, 2009 11:48 pm

      You’re The Man? You write and carry on like a wonky little girl. Had me fooled.

  30. Disgusted permalink
    February 25, 2009 9:46 pm

    My post was meant to show how rumors get started and show how mant stupid people actually believe everything they hear/read (i.e. EVERYTHING POSTED ON THIS STUPID SITE)

    And yet no one believed your post about the virus.

  31. bajista permalink
    February 25, 2009 6:27 pm

    mE, that’s about the smartest thing I’ve read on this site for quite some time. Thank you!!!!

    Go Gokey!

  32. February 25, 2009 1:46 pm

    Spinshack, you ignorant Idletard follower. My post was meant to show how rumors get started and show how mant stupid people actually believe everything they hear/read (i.e. EVERYTHING POSTED ON THIS STUPID SITE) Nothing on this site has any validation. Just a bunch of nonsense that you tards think you know something about.. I guess when you have dead end jobs as you probably all do and no authority over your lives, it’s easy to believe everything you read and give your uneducated opinion on ridiculous websites such as this…

    • spinshack permalink
      March 2, 2009 11:47 pm

      Whatever you ‘meant’ to do was completely swallowed up by your psychotic sounding ravings.

  33. spinshack permalink
    February 25, 2009 10:21 am

    I think mE’s just taking too many 15 Minute breaks to hang on to Hokey-Gokey.

    I’ve hung out at Idletard many times to read over the past few months, never had ill effects. mE, why don’t you go be a good reader instead of Splashing this site with your nonsense?

  34. February 24, 2009 11:18 pm

    Zelda also falls into the brain dead category…

  35. zelda permalink
    February 24, 2009 9:02 pm

    A virus that INSTANTLY infects but MANIFESTS weeks later??? LOL You gotta be kidding me!! Lame brain! LOL

  36. February 24, 2009 7:38 pm

    Oh one more thing…


  37. February 24, 2009 7:37 pm

    I never said mine got infected did I tard? I’ve never been to your stupid, have nothing better to do site. Sorry to disappoint you.

  38. February 24, 2009 7:03 pm

    Have you been surfing porn sites again? Don’t try to blame me for your smut surfing, dear.

  39. February 24, 2009 1:06 pm

    Seems as if the only brain dead people here are the ones posting stupid, ignorant, irrelevant stuff. (See Idletard & Mysterioso for examples)

    Oh and by the way, if you go to the Idletard website, it instantly infects your computer with an irreversible virus thats manifests itselfs 2-4 weeks after you’ve clicked on it. Don’t try and deny it either Idletard, there’s articles all over the web about it already… YOUR SITE IS GARBAGE!!

  40. February 24, 2009 6:16 am

    I see the braindead zombies are back.

    You do realise, all you bible thumping freaks, that you’re only help to prove that Gorkey is a freak, the church is a freak magnet and all the attendees of said church are obsessed freaks.

    Congratulations! Keep it up!

    • March 21, 2009 9:27 pm

      Wow insults again, Idletard points for originality and creativity….NOT! Real original good job!!!

    • Bekerz permalink
      May 6, 2009 12:19 pm

      X scuse me but you dont know what your talking about.

  41. Sara permalink
    February 24, 2009 3:13 am

    I can tell you this…..when Senator Grassley was investigating all those preachers to make sure they were putting money where it should be, Pastor Pruitt sat all of us down and showed us where our money went. Also, when the church was going through hard times, he put his keys on the altar and was willing to sell his vehicle. He is a man after God’s Heart. I’ve seen nothing but love for Jesus and consistency. His wife, Pastor Robin is a lovely lady with a heart after God. She has a heart for lost and hurting women. No ministry is perfect. People should be disciplined for bad behavior. The President of my technical college just got fired for drunk driving. That is his fault alone. As far as our bookstore goes…the one about being a playmate has a two fold message. The first message is how to have fun with God and there are tips for the married women on there. The jewelry is beautiful and it’s something fun. No hidden message there. I’ve been attending FBIM for 8 years and it’s been consistent all the way through. I had no hope before Jesus and if it wasn’t for Pastor Pruitt obeying God and coming to Milwaukee, I’d be 6 feet under. Pastor Pruitt and his family are some of the biggest givers I know…they give of their heart, time, talent, prayers, love, and finances. They are always about God’s will and not their own. He’s a strong man who knows the Word of God and is confident in God. Has our church gone through changes? Yes, but that is typical of any church or any company. The church has been nothing but good to my family and for that, I’m grateful. Jesus turned my life around and has used FBIM greatly in my life. I wouldn’t be where I am now had I not gave my life to Christand in a sound church that teaches that you don’t have to live a life of mediocrity. You can go beyond your limitations. My life is proof of that.

    Danny Gokey is a awesome man. He’s very gracious and has a heart after God. He’s a man that is trying to make sense after the devastating loss of his beautiful and precious wife, Sophia. I think it’s great that he wants to give children hope in this lost and dying world. OH! And let me ask…what exactly are you doing to help someone? Are you changing a life?

    If you are going to believe the former members who are decieved, bitter, hurt, and full of unforgiveness…go ahead.

    I know where I stand.


  42. February 24, 2009 12:24 am

    How is Biblical teaching at this church different from any other? Does the Bible not say 10% of your earnings belong to the house of God? Why do we not bash the doctor, or lawyer, or restaurant owner over how much they make? Does it really matter what they drive or what they wear? Folk, I’m curious what you do for a living? I’d like to scrutinize every move you make once I find out…

    • spinshack permalink
      March 2, 2009 11:44 pm

      No, you don’t sound like a psycho, mE. Not at all….

    • ohmeohmy permalink
      May 8, 2009 11:36 pm

      mE, Mainline churches do not emphasize wealth. In fact, I’ve never heard a sermon about wealth in my church. Never. To preach on acquiring wealth, through faith, flies in the face of the teachings of Christ. It’s theologically unsound. And, it’s wrong.

      Churches have tax-exempt status. Therefore, their financial records should open and transparent. Any member should be able to ask for and see all financial records at any time. If financial records are ever kept secret, it’s trouble, plain and simple.

      Also, churches should never, never forbid members to speak to members who have left the church. That is a classic sign of a cult.

      Power can be dangerous, and many preachers (sadly) fall into the trap of thinking they are all powerful and can do whatever they please. They forget they are not all-powerful, and in the end there is only One who is all-powerful.

      Peace to you.

  43. folk permalink
    February 23, 2009 6:44 pm

    After reading all the comments I am left wondering what the average education level is of a member of FBIM.

    Then, once that question is answered, can Anoop do his next thesis topic on the correlation between lower educational levels and a person’s likelihood to become a member of a cult like “church.” I use the term lightly, as their gospel is condemned by mainstream Christians and evangelicals (the real kind, not the tv kind).

    • GokeysFam permalink
      March 19, 2009 9:45 pm

      the question is.. what is the average educational level of those blogging about someone they do not even knw??! come on people. How dumb can we be? Can we represent America any better than this?

  44. _justagirl permalink
    February 23, 2009 4:09 am

    “Wow! First of all to CherriesJubilee – you won’t be glad you are an atheist forever. I’ll be praying for you.”

    Personally, I believe in God but I’m tolerant and I believe in aspects from different religions (Buddhism interests me) but i think it’s awful of you to say they won’t be glad they are an athiest forever. Who are you to say if someones belief in a higher power (probably in this case God) or lack there of is wrong. Have you died and met Jesus Christ or your God to say that you are positively right in what you believe. Because i haven’t I believe a God exists but what if Im wrong in the end? As long as someone is aa good person and does good things and has good intentions thats what should matter.

  45. zelda permalink
    February 22, 2009 3:52 pm

    AI is doing the whoring. They glob onto a story like this and won’t let it go. They want to hype “the story”. It is not his fault, in my opinion.

    • TopIdol permalink
      February 22, 2009 4:11 pm

      My main issue is with the church using this guy to make money. Regardless of how anyone feels about him, I take more issue with the fact they’re essentially using both him and American Idol to benefit themselves.

      And obviously, American Idol is one of the most gratuitous shows out there, however, I do think Gokey could have been more upfront about them using his “tragic back story” so much and handled it as David Cook did.

      But I don’t see how anyone can deny the church is doing a great deal of whoring on its own. The website, the blog, the Fox 6 website…all using the connection to Gokey and Idol.

      • March 7, 2009 2:53 pm

        how is the church using Danny Gokey to make money???
        this is ridiculous…

        • Bekerz permalink
          May 6, 2009 12:16 pm

          I totally agree with you. I know the pastors and they would not try to make money off of Danny!!!

  46. Hate The Pimp permalink
    February 22, 2009 1:23 pm

    Whoring his wife.

    • SHHH permalink
      May 14, 2009 2:57 pm

      Everyone just shut up and worry about your own lives. This is a human being you are talking about who lost his wife.. it amazes me that people can say such hurtful things, especially about a man mourning the loss of his wife. Even this church blog is ridiculous, good job setting an awful example… God would be proud.

      • Seraphim permalink
        May 23, 2009 10:02 am

        Do the math… Gokey was auditioning while his wife was dying in the hospital. That’s mourning if I ever saw it. Then the Sophia’s Heart Foundation has nothing to do with why she died, it was just a clever gimmick to bring in more funds.

        I have no respect for Gokey; but I will pray for him.

        • Rumblefish permalink
          May 23, 2009 11:09 pm

          wow, really…Seraphim, I think you need to check your math. You should really do your homework before you post such an incorrect comment. By definition Seraphim means the highest of the nine orders of angels, with 3 pairs of wings. My definition of YOU? Brainless

        • someone permalink
          May 24, 2009 4:31 pm

          Who ever wrote this has definatly wrong information!!!!!! One thing I can say is that Danny did not get married at Faith Builders because it was required or whatever you said. You totally need to get your facts straight before writing such lies. I think if anyone needs prayer it certaintly is you.

  47. zelda permalink
    February 22, 2009 12:33 pm

    David: Well written and thought out. Thanks for your input. I also agree with keeping Danny’s pursuit of the AI title and this church’s negatives separate. He has the right to worship where ever he chooses without undue judgment upon him personally.

  48. bajista permalink
    February 22, 2009 12:11 pm


  49. Hot and Anointed permalink
    February 22, 2009 4:40 am

    “Sadly, during my entire time at the church, I do not remember Jeff Pruitt saying much about being moral, following the Ten Commandments, or even following the teachings of Jesus like the Sermon on the Mount. Rather, he taught about how to get healthy, wealthy, and stay in line with the proper spiritual authority (which of course was him).”


    “I think we should try to keep the church background of Danny Gokey separate from his current pursuits as a singer. Just because he is a member of the church does not make him an accomplice to the doctrines that Jeff Pruitt is teaching. Although, you should probably be careful not to allow Dan’s connection with the church to move you to financially support it.”

    Good advice.

    • December 25, 2009 12:31 pm

      This article is Ridiculous & Full of Half-Truths. Sadly folks get hurt & it happens many times but why ? Oh, the Pastor didn’t look at me, oh aren’t I important enough to do this ? Grow up & forgive, this was perhaps some small item that has been Magnified Too Much.

      I have been at FBIM since it was New Ark & know the parties well, they are Good Stewards & The WORD Goes Forth. People are saved, lives are changed, help is given, food is dispensed.

      Are we perfect, NO ! Mistakes are made & I would apologize to anyone if I had stepped on there toes, many times this is all it is, some small issue that is then fed upon & grows.

      I would recommend that anyone visit Beloit, wheere I attend but I go to MKE & was there for the 12.24 Service last night. Pastor is approachable but Be Honest he is a Very Busy Man.

      I know how busy I am with Work, Family, Church & other Items. You can’t be in more than 1 place at a time.

      I Pray you can forgive, Jesus said, ‘with the same measure it will be measured back to you’, I paraphrase, but don’t judge. Please Forgive & Forget whatever happened to you.

      Adios Amigo

  50. February 22, 2009 3:29 am


  51. David D. Mahoney permalink
    February 21, 2009 11:09 pm

    A family member of mine found this blog doing a search for Dan Gokey and sent it my way. I am just leaving this message for anyone who may like more information about FBIM and their connection with Danny Gokey. Being a former member of the church, I feel responsible to at least offer my perspective of the situation.

    During the 8 years that I attended FBIM (formerly called: New Ark Christian Center) I watched Dan Gokey go from a nervous, young worship leader to a confident worship leader. I knew him personally and we even spent some time together outside of the church. He is a good man, and I am glad to see him pursuing a career using his God-given talent. Because I did not directly work in the music department, I cannot say anything in regard to the allegations about him being flirtatious with the girls or argumentative with the other worship team members, but I could guess that the allegations from the anonymous individual may be slightly overstated. Dan definitely matured over the years and it would be wrong to hold those things against him.

    I worked in the FBIM A/V (Audio/Visual) department for about 4 years and before leaving I worked in the children’s ministry for about 2 years. In all 8 years of attendance, which was primarily in the Milwaukee location, I witnessed everything that was stated in this blog. Not only did I witness what went on in the Church in general, but I was also given “leadership” status and was allowed to attend the leadership meetings. Therefore, I am a witness to the allegations against FBIM. The information given in this blog is NOT gossip; it is not the attempt of some anonymous individual to get revenge over a personal offense. There are many people that have been hurt by churches such as these, and I and this individual are not the only ones.

    I’ll try to make my version as short as possible. If anyone wants more information, just send me a note. It wasn’t too long after becoming a member of FBIM, that I felt like God was calling me to ministry. I had been raised in a Christian home and knew the Bible better than the average person, but that wasn’t why I wanted to be in ministry. When I first began to attend in 1999, it seemed as if the whole church believed that they were called to ministry. Jeff Pruitt even had a School of Ministry that many of us attended. Looking back on the situation now, it’s clear to me that we all (including myself) wanted the form of ministry that Jeff Pruitt was modeling for us. Jeff Pruitt wanted a megachurch, by his own admission, and so did we.

    My personal years following those original impressions were littered with psychological trauma. In pursuing ministry, however, I studied everything I could on history and the Bible. In the process, a preacher by the name of Derek Prince became part of my research and the key that led me to leave FBIM. Derek Prince was a part of what is now known as the Shepherding Movement. One of the members of this group, Bob Mumford, started a doctrine that he termed “covering.” Today, the doctrine is being spread by such renowned Christian speakers as John Bevere.

    At first, I believed this doctrine and defended it belligerently, but after experiencing its harmful affects I realized that it is NOT at all biblical. The doctrine basically states that God sets one man over a particular region or city and that every Christian in that region is accountable to God to submit to that man. At first this doctrine is taught inside the walls of the church; thus, all of the members of the church must comply with this doctrine so that the entire region will eventually come under the umbrella of this particular man who is God’s “covering” for that region.

    All of this is taught at FBIM, and it produced the results that the nameless blogger described. Most of the time I attended the church I felt a sense of manipulation and control. When someone believes, as Jeff Pruitt does, that he is the “man of God” it is difficult to question him. There are people out there that just want to find something to criticize someone about. I am not that person. I just think that we all need to be corrected at times, and when you put yourself in a position that is untouchable you are setting yourself up to nurture your pride. I could tell that Pruitt did not take correction well. As long as we were a part of the church we were not allowed to do anything apart from the pastor’s final decision. I tried to get council from the associate pastor for my mental problems, but the answer was always the same: you can’t do it if pastor doesn’t approve. And my struggle at the time was merely changing my volunteer work from the A/V to the children’s ministry. Because I was so mentally distraught I left the A/V anyway and went to the children’s ministry. Shortly after that, the associate pastor that I tried to get council from left the church.

    To be fair, the Shepherding Movement that Derek Prince became infamous for did some worse activity under the “covering” doctrine. They controlled whether the members could even have children or not, or how many children they could have, or if they could buy a car, and so on. FBIM did not do any of these things, but in my opinion the teaching of “covering” did just as much mental damage as the Shepherding Movement.

    Sadly, during my entire time at the church, I do not remember Jeff Pruitt saying much about being moral, following the Ten Commandments, or even following the teachings of Jesus like the Sermon on the Mount. Rather, he taught about how to get healthy, wealthy, and stay in line with the proper spiritual authority (which of course was him).

    One final word: I get very tired of hearing Christians say that we shouldn’t judge. There’s a world of difference between being unnecessarily critical, and simply correcting people that are doing immoral and unrighteous things. If we are not supposed to judge then why did Jesus say in Matthew 18:15-17:

    15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that “by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

    These are very strong words. If someone refuses to receive correction, according to Jesus we are supposed to expose his faults publically. Everyone who was formerly involved has a responsibility to lay out the facts concerning FBIM and churches like it. All of us have our shortcomings, but when the doctrines behind the pursuits are wrong then there will be character flaws that cannot be fixed by merely correcting the behavior; the doctrine, which is the root of the cause, must be corrected.

    I think we should try to keep the church background of Danny Gokey separate from his current pursuits as a singer. Just because he is a member of the church does not make him an accomplice to the doctrines that Jeff Pruitt is teaching. Although, you should probably be careful not to allow Dan’s connection with the church to move you to financially support it.

    • February 4, 2010 8:54 pm

      hey dave call me up bro!!! do u got my number??? its the same one!!!

      • David D. permalink
        February 4, 2010 10:58 pm

        hey Alex!! I think I got your number. I’ll give you a call when I can!!

  52. sliphit permalink
    February 21, 2009 10:28 pm

    Source? Its just a question. Yet no answer. Nor will you post his name, you will post other peoples names, & you sure didn’t hold back from posting the peoples names from FBIM. Post his name, if not than we know he was the source. And by the way he cried about everything, no surprise he would feed you all that garbage.


    • hittheroadjack permalink
      February 25, 2009 6:59 pm

      Guess what – most of what I just read is true. We spent several years in this church and it is cultish and even beyond that. Instead of arguing about the merits and accuracy of these issues, how about just praying that the Pruitts will have the blinders removed once and for all and stop hurting God’s people?

  53. pito permalink
    February 21, 2009 4:27 pm

    Hey, what happened to my phone? I can’t dial out!!!
    Bajista, can you vote for me???

    Go GOKEY!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. Disgusted permalink
    February 21, 2009 4:14 pm

    Every time you do that, bajista, an Idol voter’s phone breaks.

  55. bajista permalink
    February 21, 2009 2:58 pm


    Go Gokey!

  56. February 21, 2009 2:55 am

    This reminds me of the lovely song by Frenzel Rhomb

    “All your friends think you’re a fuckwit
    All your friends think you’re shit
    And they’re right”


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