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Scambert! Adam Lambert Fan “Kymm Leibel” cons the Glamberts

January 1, 2010

An alleged Adam Lambert fan named Kymm Leibel scammed her fellow Glamberts out of a bunch of cash by selling/gifting them fake VIP tickets to last night’s Gridlock NYE event in Los Angeles. (Leibel has conveniently not posted to her Twitter since December 29th.)

Victims of this scam included blogger Gossip Candy and a woman who goes by DragonFly194 on AdamOfficial.com.

On December 19th at approx. 11pm I received an email from a woman saying that she and her husband had purchased two VIP tables at Gridlock. She wanted people at her table who were fans and who would be fun. She said I came to mind and I had been an Adam fan from the very first so she wanted to reward me by paying for my plane ticket, my hotel, my VIP tickets and Red Carpet VIP Tent Access.

I bought it hook line and sinker as they say. Every part of her story as it developed seemed real. I spoke with her over the phone, got numerous emails with wonderful details of our fantastic trip. I was not the only one others on this board were also taken in.

The first cracks in the story appeared when our plane tickets were suddenly canceled and changed to another day. Then they were changed again – always with a plausible story. Now today they were canceled again just hours before leaving for the airport. The story is so farfetched as to the reasoning that I began checking further.

No reservation at the hotel Petite Ermitage for us, no tickets held at Gridlock under our name or her name, no airline ticket rebooked. All of us who were taken in have gone to considerable expense when we could little afford it to help the dream come true.

We purchased clothing, luggage, jewelry, shoes etc. so we would not shame ourselves as we met Adam and danced the night away. We wanted to look as beautiful as we could. We wanted to look as special as this woman was making us feel.

Now we feel hurt, disillusioned, lied to, cheated on, robbed and emotionally raped.

To tie this to such a wonderful thing as our fan adoration of a exemplary human being such as Adam is added insult. This is soooo not anything he would want to hear happened in his name.

I just want to warn whoever else has been lead on by this woman to be aware that it is all part of some fantasy where she “means well, but it all falls apart at the end”. She and a male partner make it seem so real.

Their names are Kymm and Kelly Leibel (if these are their real names) they say they are from Souix City, Iowa and that they own many restaurants. She uses the screen name kleibelx2.

She is a fantasy infatuated person and so is her male partner or they are just mean beyond belief.

I am crushed that I will not be there to see Adam, I am embarrassed that I was duped and I am exhausted beyond belief as I have tried to unravel this mess.

I still love Adam Lambert as a singer, performer and exemplary human being. I still believe in the good of most people and I still believe that good things happen to good people. Unfortunately bad things also happen to good people, too. So any else of you who have been sucked in by this woman – start questioning her immediately and make your own plans because you’ve just been hoaxed in a very personal and cruel way.

Hey, I gotta admit. I love making fun of Adam Lambert’s wily bunch of overzealous fantards, however, I’m not going to make fun of these people for being duped or suckered, even if it would be REALLY REALLY EASY TO DO SO right now. I’m sure these con artists gained a fair amount of trust within Glambertlandia, however, its high time people learned that a little research knowledge can go a long, long way. Of course, if someone is offering you something like this for free…? Come on, now. Come on.

Since I’m obsessed with research, naturally, I Googled these rat bastards. If Kymm and Kelly Leibel are really restaurant owners in the Sioux City, IA area, I believe there would be more information about them. More so than a generic Xing profile, right? (That’s some Holly Sockpuppets/Maryann Edwards shit right there.) In fact, I can’t find out much about Kymm Leibel beyond Twitter and some vague information purporting her age to be between 45-49 and a resident of the Sioux City area.

Leibel, however, seems to have ingrained herself in the Glambert community, going as far as to volunteer for the Cassidy Haley Army, a fangroup for singer Cassidy Haley, who is also a close friend of Adam Lambert. Her name pops up in December 2009 issue of  cassidy-haley-army-newsletter (Glamberts all love Cassidy Haley). She is listed as one of the “publishers” and there is a Q&A biography on page 8.

The other women who run the Army–and Cassidy Haley himself–are in no way in cahoots with Kymm Leibel and have only learned about her scam as it unfolded over the last two days. Both Cassidy Haley and the Army’s Anne Marie have contacted me and they are shocked with the turn of events. Kymm Leibel was apparently very proficient in answering members’ questions and drumming up new membership. She volunteered to work with the Army via Twitter and was very open about being a mega-Lambert fan. Anne Marie and Haley both know nothing more about this woman than what was posted in the newsletter, but are now aware she lured other Glamberts into close online friendships and are very upset about this woman’s fraudulent activities. Obviously, Kymm Leibel offered her “services” to the Cassidy Haley Army to give herself legitimacy (remember, Idol fantards love boasting about their “insider industry knowledge”, as well as “marketing & PR skills”) within the Glambert realm.

Pretty disgusting, right? She targeted Haley in order to get a deeper in with the Glamberts and gain clout amongst them, as many Glamberts now follow Haley’s career because of his ties to Adam Lambert.

“My army has been duped just like the rest of them, and we are shocked and dismayed that she ha been lying this whole time. I wanted to clarify that, while she has been a part of my street team, the fan site she and the others generated is legitimate. The donations go directly to me through a private paypal account that kymm never had access to. Right now we have been just as screwed over by her as anyone else as she pretended to be advocating for my career but in actuality seemed to just be developing relationships and gathering information,” says Cassidy Haley.

Kymm Leibel purports to have worked for the Democratic Party for the last 18 years (presumably in Iowa) and is the owner of “three upscale restaurants in the midwest”. Hmmm…as someone who was born and raised in the Midwest who can also name several family members who are very active in statewide politics, your story smells fishy. Oh, and people in the midwest also have websites for restaurants now, and the local press jumps on new eateries (particularly those of the SWANKY and upscale variety), so hmmm…it does seem a little suspect that this woman’s alleged existence as a longtime liberal democrat in a more than predominantly conservative state who is active in countless voting and membership drives while also operating three UPSCALE restaurants leaves such a weak Google trail. Nor can I find her name attached to anything called Make, Inc., the company she purports to own on her MySpace profile.

And Mugsy, one of the best researchers I know did a few checks:

I did a quick search for public and property records for Leibel in Sioux City, IA, and guess what? I found nothing. I also found nothing under the IA Secretary of State under that name. If they owned a chain of restaurants, they would certainly be incorporated or have formed a business entity registered with the Secretary of State. Kimm Leibel is probably not her real name, or Iowa is not her real location. The frauen could have easily checked her out. I doubt there’s a male business partner either.

Is she a Glambert or just a scam artist? Who knows, but it does seem particularly ironic that her biographical information is so perfect. She’s a liberal democrat, but from the MIDWEST! She owns several upscale restaurants, which makes her just a bit “richer” and more “in-the-know” than other Glamberts. The combination makes it easy for her to dupe unsuspecting fans. It’s authoritative yet approachable. And boom! Bitch takes the money and runs. And there if she was a legitimate business owner, well then, there would be record of that…so…

Listen, I really could make fun of the Glamberts right now, but I won’t. I don’t know the details of the elaborate scam that was pulled on them, and I doubt it would have happened to me, as I would have Googled information about this woman ahead of time. But as I said, I don’t know the details, but it is clear she (and her partners, if there are any) was somehow able to gain trust of these individuals in some manner or another. But the Glamberts should also be aware that their desperate love and need to see their savior can also open them up to these types of schemes. If it sounds too good to be true, it most likely is, so next time, do a little research before buying a plane ticket and sending someone cash via PayPal.

And if anyone has any information as to who this Kymm (or Kelly) Leibel actually is, please send it my way. I love getting the word out about these crazy ass bitches who try to screw other people for their own sick & twisted pleasure or in the name of good old-fashioned greed. I don’t care who bought crap like clothing or makeup in preparation for the big event–that’s their own deal. But if anyone got scammed out of cash for a plane ticket, VIP access or hotel room and can verify this information, let me know.

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  1. January 18, 2010 12:20 am

    Aw. I mock crazy Adam fans a lot, but I feel bad for anyone being conned like that.

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  2. Ursie May permalink
    January 3, 2010 11:51 pm

    I’m a fan of the singer, Adam Lambert, and live in a country that doesn’t have the same obsession with reality television shows as America seems to have. I picked up on Lambert’s talent purely by accident and switched on the show each week for the sole purpose of hearing him sing. I still haven’t heard any of the other Idol contestants sing – as they held no interest to me musically. Prior to becoming a “fan” of Lambert’s music, I had never heard of “shipping” or ‘fan wars”, and certainly had no idea that you guys are deadly serious in your obsession with the show, its contestants, its fan bases and with your own interactions as members of fan and blog sites dedicated to all things Idol.

    The obsession seems to have little or nothing to do with music, which perhaps makes sense since the Idol show is more of a popularity than music contest. For myself, as for thousands of other international fans who are interested in Lambert as a remarkable singer, Idol is meaningless. Lambert stands out for one reason and one reason only – he can sing his face off.

    As for nutbar fans, sorry but these go with the territory of fame. Always have. But passionate loyalty and a broad age demographic in a fanbase is nothing to be despised. Certain artists have mass appeal. MJ is a case in point. Other artists are so polarizing they never obtain, neither do they seek, mainstream success. The fact is, Lambert doesn’t need hordes of fashion conscious teens buying his music in order to make it as a “rockstar”. Neither does Gaga, who is hated as much as she is adored, and owes her success to her devoted, passionate and loyal fanbase (amongst which there are crazies) – and to her phenomenal talent.

    Lambert, as the only male transformative pop/rock singer to emerge in this generation, seems to be forging a similar career. He has the fans, and he has the talent.

    Music is what it’s about. But if your internet buzz is ‘idolmania’ gossip – then go for it. Whatever turns you on….

  3. RJL1909 permalink
    January 3, 2010 9:23 am

    Sorry, something in the way the story is written, makes me wonder if the person who is being scammed is not the scam–ee, looking for sympathy (tickets). Who in their right mind would expect anyone to offer a package deal (to an out of town event) for a 1 night event that costs about the same as an electric bill for a month? Something here is not right. Glambert obsession is probably the worst thing to happen to Adam.

  4. Blue Eyes permalink
    January 2, 2010 9:55 pm

    I think most Idol fans are new to the internets/fan sites, therefore are more gullible to scams. I think you can just blame it on ignorance. Most of the AI fan sites give a false sense of trust and security and a poster feels like they are part of a community and the mods/posters/blog owner are really their friends, which is total BS.

    But, anyway this reminds of the Soul Patrol, which I was a part of many moons ago. They had their fair share of scammers and the grandmas bought into it lock, stock and barrel. There was a fansite owner called Adora and she ran a site called TaylorMadeSoul. She asked for money many times (for personal use) and gullible fans gave it her – no questions asked. Another fantard called Claudia took money from fans for a magazine she was starting. There was no magazine, it was all a scam. I think she finally refunded their money, but it was only after they threatened to take her to court. Another nutcase called Bluzkat, pretended she was an insider and posted bogus stories from Taylor’s grannie – all lies! Bluzkat also made soul patrol bracelets and tried many times to scam money out of the old ladies.

    It makes me sad that Idol fantards lives are so empty, that they get caught up in the Idol hype and insanity and easily part with their money without a second thought.

  5. Bluebelle permalink
    January 2, 2010 8:35 pm

    Well now, blacklisted…you wrote ““Why do you insist on increasing my pain? And yet when I read your post all I could only consider three options; gullible fool? troll? or attention whore who likes to use her supposed ‘victimization’ for sympathy”

    My first thoughts. Perhaps this “victim” is hoping Adam will hear her sad story and fulfill her dream to make it all better….??

    But then I’m a conspiracy theorist from the word go. Just sayin’, though….

  6. AIFan permalink
    January 2, 2010 8:30 pm

    Why would anyone ask Adam (or any other celebrity) for a hug ? What do they get out of it ? And do they really think he enjoys hugging strangers (unless they happen to be hot twinks) ?

    • lauren722 permalink
      January 2, 2010 8:39 pm

      Obviously it wouldn’t be for Adam’s enjoyment, it would be for mine! Why wouldn’t I want a hug from Adam Lambert????

      • AIFan permalink
        January 2, 2010 9:40 pm

        Even if he is sick and tired of hugging random strangers ?

        • lauren722 permalink
          January 2, 2010 9:44 pm

          Yup! If crazy fantards get a hug from Adam, then I’m going to as well.

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 2, 2010 10:05 pm

          If he gets sick and tired of people wanting hugs and autographs he needs a good slap on the face. He should enjoy this while he has it, and appreciate every fan no matter what they look like. Sadly, from looking at the photos, he needs a reality check. I’m so sorry he didn’t get the young, cool fans he thought he would, but he better embrace what he does have, and fast.

          • 8sourcandy permalink
            January 2, 2010 10:28 pm

            Can’t they be forced to look better?

  7. January 2, 2010 7:48 pm

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    Start sharing music with thousands of people on twtmuzik.com.

  8. margie permalink
    January 2, 2010 6:02 pm

    These women are my mom’s age prolly older. I would shoot myself if my mother acted this stupid over a AI contestat. I love Kris but I don’t go crazy…I have a normal 20 yr old somethig life. I can’t spend my time chasing after him online ,voting on every freaking poll or flying across the country to see him. Are their lives that uneventful.

  9. Mithra permalink
    January 2, 2010 5:09 pm

    Was Rod’s ass bony? That must have hurt 😀

    If you found yourself in an elevator with Adam Lambert what would you say to him?

    Dermabrasion.

    Some interesting stuff here (I can’t believe they are already over 130 pages, oy):

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?s=938ed5742465063eb13cd1b89d9c222a&showtopic=636281&st=2620

    Hollygofuckyourself (not to be confused with Holly Sockpuppets) missed out. Ha ha. Although I would have loved to point and laugh at her report. She goes back and fourth between trying to act cool and like an “industry insider”, uber bitch, and a squeeing tard.

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 2, 2010 5:59 pm

      I’m more interested in learning more about how Rod Stewart ended up sitting on Sour’s hand for an extended period of time.

      DERMABRASION!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Hollygofuckyourself also made me go hahahahahahahaha

      • 8sourcandy permalink
        January 2, 2010 7:00 pm

        It was a crowded club in NYC. I was resting my hand on a bar stool he sat on it. He wasn’t there long.

    • 8sourcandy permalink
      January 2, 2010 7:08 pm

      Mithra, I love you for posting those. Are they real? Will my computer explode?

      His ass was bony. He’s short and skinny, or at least he was then.

      Dermabrasion? You would not be that rude in person, would you?

      • TopIdol permalink
        January 3, 2010 12:58 pm

        I don’t think Rod will ever be fat. Ever.

        But had he sat on mine, I would have looked at him and asked:

        Do ya think I’m sexy? Because you’re sitting on my hand.

        I would also smile and laugh while doing so and all…

        • 8sourcandy permalink
          January 12, 2010 12:41 am

          I am just reading this…

          I know it may not seem like it, but I am very shy and never would have had the balls. Well, unless I was dared to do it or was I drunk. He was there with a model, btw.

          I would love to brag about ALL my celebrity encounters, but fear being called a liar or a sockpuppet. People here are very skeptical, you know. 🙂

    • lauren722 permalink
      January 2, 2010 7:37 pm

      I read just a little. I like the conclusion that since Kris’ girlfriend ate pickles, Adam is this girlfriend and obviously eats pickles. It scares me how much sense this makes to me.

  10. Isidra permalink
    January 2, 2010 9:11 am

    Aw. I mock crazy Adam fans a lot, but I feel bad for anyone being conned like that.

  11. Verbally Dyslexic permalink
    January 2, 2010 3:35 am

    Sucks that people get conned this way, but trusting the ‘goodwill’ of a stranger on the internet is really your fault. I wouldn’t even trust the goodwill of my own boss, let alone someone I’ve never met face-to-face!

    Just hope these people who fell for the scam learn their lesson. This Kymm Liebel will reappear with another name and other gullible Glamberts will get duped. Rinse and repeat.

  12. lil lulu permalink
    January 2, 2010 12:52 am

    Dragonfly, I don’t see anyone making fun of you or anyone else involved. In fact, I think the article is about Kymm and what a shit she is. And it’s a warning to other people to be very dubious of people you meet on-line. I think if you really want to prevent this stuff from happening in the future, the rule should be: If a 14 year old girl brought up the scenerio to you, what would you say?

    For example:
    If a 14 year old told you that she has made the best friends ever at an on-line board she hangs out at where everyone talks about her favorite singer, and that she gave a few people her cell phone number and told them lots of personal details about herself, what would you say?

    If a 14 year old girl told you that someone from the board had purchased tickets to a concert out-of-state for her (VIP seats!!)and a few others, had paid for her airline flight, and was putting her up in a hotel room for the weekend, what would you say?

    And, let me reverse that. What kind of person buys airline tickets, pays for hotel rooms, and provides concert tickets to people they met on-line? Someone who is either not to be trusted or not in their right mind.

    Sorry to be harsh, but I think these kinds of things probably happen more than we know within the AI community. So far, people have only been scammed out of money or their self-respect. But, how long until something truly tragic happens to a trusting fan? Personally, I think the AI fanboards are perfect environments for scammers/creeps.

    • Nich permalink
      January 2, 2010 3:10 am

      IMO online friendships need to be like real life friendships or dating. You slowly take your time to get to know the other person. Some of my closest friends in my life I met online. But we slowly built up that friendship. We talked online, we emailed, eventually we all met up at public place for lunch where no one had to be flown in especially for it. Everyone pays their own way. It went in stages. Lunches, some group dinners. A few times we’ve flown to other states for fan gatherings and what not but by then we actually knew that everyone was exactly who they said they were. I can’t see just jumping from “hey I met this funny person online” straight to “let me buy this random stranger expensive VIP tickets.”

  13. julie permalink
    January 1, 2010 8:38 pm

    Oh, and I think your girl might be in South Dakota. Or she was at some time in South Daktoa. Zabasearch.com has a listing for a Kymm Leibel (right spelling and everything) in SD.

    • byork permalink
      January 1, 2010 10:05 pm

      Kymm Leibel connected to two defunct restaurants, Distinctive Elements and Western Frontier, located on Highway 18 at Bonesteel, South Dakota.

      • TopIdol permalink
        January 1, 2010 10:08 pm

        I saw that. Couldn’t even find a review on those places.

        Why does she move around from Sioux Falls and Sioux City so much? Ha. She seems to be all over South Dakota and Iowa.

        She’s also lied about her sons and can’t keep her stories (or their ages) straight.

        This keeps getting more and more interesting.

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        • julie permalink
          January 1, 2010 10:29 pm

          Well, it’s certainly more interesting with Jon Hamm’s picture on it…

  14. julie permalink
    January 1, 2010 8:34 pm

    This has nothing to do with the main point here, but I did want to point out that there are lots of liberal Democrats in the Midwest. Hello — Obama is from Illinois, right next door to Iowa. In the presidential election, he carried Illinois, Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Iowa. And Iowa is one of the few states to allow gay marriage. Soooo… Long story short? Neither Iowa nor the Midwest are conservative bastions where a liberal Democrat is out of place or a warning flag.

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 1, 2010 8:43 pm

      Oh, I know you’re right, but I pointed it out as a more “hey-look-at-me-I’m-just-like-you-and-I-love-Adam-Lambert” kind of thing. (And hey, I’m originally from the midwest, too!)

  15. matkojapan permalink
    January 1, 2010 6:47 pm

    I still don’t see how they got scammed? What did they fork over? Am I missing something?

    What? they had to buy new jewelry? wtf? cry me a fucking river!! JEWELRY?!?!?!

  16. Dragonfly194 permalink
    January 1, 2010 6:31 pm

    I was scammed because a trusted friend who had close ties with the scammer for nearly a year. This Kymm woman took months to build a false shell of her persona with countless people including my friend. Kymm insinuated herself into my friends personal life as well, their communications were several times a day. My friend had no reason to doubt Kymm as they worked toward the same goal on a charitable project and Kymm’s many contributions in time and organizational skills at the charity were documented.

    She was a welcomed part of the Cassidy Army, she was known to a friend and she was recognized on the Adam Official board. No warnings were found anywhere I looked – it was always an exemplary person doing good in the world. These “truths” kept coming back to me as proof to accept her on face value. I did google her name and didn’t find as much as I wanted, but rich people many times fly under the radar using corporate names. In the process of this scam she emailed me 34 times in 10 days, spoke with me via cell phone numerous times and assured me, “Yes this is real, it is just what I want to do for you because of the thread you write every night on the Adam Official – I admire your writing and never miss a night.” I want to reward you for being such a loyal fan.

    So with the background of the Cassidy Army affiliation, a “known” person to my friend, and her smattering of information on the internet and on the Adam Lambert Official website – I let my self believe.

    I am normally such a skeptic and I always take information with a grain of salt, but this time because she was a “known” person – I bypassed any ringing bells in my head. It was such a wonderful trip that she planned for us, she was so ingratiating to me and my friend, and I had printed airline boarding passes in my hand – why would I question further? Who would pay for a ticket on a rouse?

    Well, it would be someone who purchased trip insurance for the tickets with the ability to get a full refund. Sure they’re out the insurance fee, but think of all the glee it bought her to jerk our strings like a puppet master extraordinaire.

    I did do checking – I called the hotel and they didn’t have my name listed, when I questioned Kymm she said not to worry she had the reservation in her corporate name and would call them right away to put everything in our own names. She seemed organized and competent. Every time I questioned her, the response was so quick and genuine that it seemed to be true.

    So, yes I feel foolish, duped and embarrassed – but I think most anyone would have come to the same conclusion based on what I’ve stated above. If feel that if it was you who had spoken with this eloquent person that showed so much emotion and sincerity in her voice, you wouldn’t have doubted either. If you had read the emails, if you had proof of her many charitable acts in other organizations, if she was a known person to a friend – how far do you question someone with a background such as this without being insulting?

    Don’t go pointing any holier and smarter than thou finger at me until you, too, have been so totally fooled. Let me ask you a question – ever marry someone you ended up divorcing because it turned out they just weren’t the same person once you married them or taken a job that just wasn’t what it was represented to be or purchased a cute sweet puppy that destroyed your home and bit you? – Oh yeah that would be YES for many of you so shut up and stop pointing and feeling smug.

    I mean I personally purchased and gave away American Idol tickets myself when my plans were altered because it was a fun thing to do instead of just wasting the tickets – so I thought Kymm was of the same ilk as I was. SO I WAS WRONG.

    I HAD TICKETS IN MY HAND for God’s sake – I was not being a total idiot.

    Why do you insist on increasing my pain?

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 1, 2010 7:31 pm

      I want to find out who this woman really is because I don’t agree with what she did, so trust me, I’m on your side. I also have huge problems with the way she infiltrated the Cassidy Haley Army, which seemed to be for the sole purpose of exploiting Adam Lambert fans.

      I know a lot of Glamberts hate me and my blog, but when people get scammed I want to call it out. And not to make fun of anyone, trust me, but because I want to maybe help others from being duped in the future.

    • Trish permalink
      January 1, 2010 7:59 pm

      Dragonfly194, believe me, you have my sympathies. This woman was clearly some kind of sociopath to have gone to such lengths to defraud people. I’m still unclear if she was a legitimate fan who went off the deep end or had nefarious designs on you all from the start. Aside from the obvious phishing risks if you turned over personal information to her, did she actually successfully steal any money from you? I’m still confused, since she was offering to pay everybody’s way. And again, if folks spent money to prepare for the trip to LA, couldn’t the stuff all just be returned?

      And I wouldn’t beat yourself up to badly. You’re hardly the first person to be the victim of a sophisticated scam. Two words: Bernie Madoff.

      • Lauren permalink
        January 1, 2010 8:06 pm

        I agree. That woman is mental. Honestly even if she didn’t steal any money, imagine that you are being offered your dream come true and then all the sudden it is taken away. That’s enough of a crime in my opinion.
        Bernie Madoff single-handedly bankrupted countless charities. You can’t get any sicker than that. He is the reason I won’t be going to Israel when I turn 18. He destroyed the Birth-right program.

        • blacklisted permalink
          January 1, 2010 8:20 pm

          Please don’t compare REAL crimes with what this fantard did. It lessens the importance of a real crime.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 1, 2010 8:41 pm

            Yes, maybe this wasn’t a real crime but what Kymm did was pretty awful. Obviously she is no Bernie Madoff, but I’m not about to give her a hug either.
            I think the reason you don’t get this is because VIP tickets to see Adam wouldn’t be a big deal to you. As a proud Adam-tard, I completely understand how devastated these women must feel.

            • blacklisted permalink
              January 1, 2010 9:08 pm

              It has nothing to do with being a tard or not being a tard. It has to do with people who are gullible in general.

              I’m a HUGE Green Day fan and I wouldn’t believe anyone’s cock and bull story granting me VIP tixs to their event. As with anything, I make my own plans. If something good happens to occur (ie getting backstage) then it’s a nice feeling but I’m not the type to ever believe anyone making me a promise about anything, especially involving a celeb or something thats OBVIOUSLY too good to be true.

              So…if a guy tells you that he’s ‘clean, thus no condoms are needed’ you should know that’s a line. If someone says that they don’t have a home number to give you, then assume he’s married with kids. Just like if some representative from a cruise line calls you with a great package and all you have to do is pay for the plane tixs…that’s a scam..as is a letter that says that you have money in the bank. That chicks story was such an OBVIOUS scam that even a clueless glambert should have figured it out.

            • Sherena permalink
              January 2, 2010 7:16 pm

              Idk about “gullible.” Some people are just trusting and haven’t realized that the internet is a whole ‘nother world that you have to be 10x more cynical in yet.

            • lauren722 permalink
              January 2, 2010 7:46 pm

              I agree. And it seems that they had conversed with Kymm a lot and grown to trust her. If anyone here offered me those tickets I would be less likely to be suspicious than from another blog that I don’t frequent.

    • blacklisted permalink
      January 1, 2010 8:18 pm

      “Why do you insist on increasing my pain?”

      And yet when I read your post all I could only consider three options; gullible fool? troll? or attention whore who likes to use her supposed ‘victimization’ for sympathy.

      Note the difference between the response of a jaded person like me and someone who gives others the benefit of the doubt.

      The crazy chick who fooled the tards was doing something for psychological not financial gain. If you did get scammed, it was because you wanted to believe that what she said was true. Not that I actually believe that you got scammed, bc I never trust ‘victims’ who come out of the woodwork when things like this happen. If you did get lied to online, well then babe, join the world at large.

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 2, 2010 2:14 am

        Actually, I’m going to agree with you here. That post did not increase my sympathy for this woman. What happened sucked, but that post came off as an even bigger plea for attention. Not cool.

        Tread lightly, TI. That really devolved into a sketchy response.

    • Mithra permalink
      January 1, 2010 8:57 pm

      Dragonfly194,

      or purchased a cute sweet puppy that destroyed your home and bit you?

      First off, a puppy is a puppy and they are destructive. BUYING, not ADOPTING a puppy…oy…

      What charities. I read a lot of her twitter and she jumped all over Terri’s murder and went on about charities including donating Adam’s CD to women’s shelter :eyeroll Is Cassidy’s Army a charity? Tweeting about charities is not exactly the same as doing charity work. She set it up to impress ya’ll.

      Falling for her buying tickets/VIP table to the show, VIP access to various events connected, airfare, hotel rooms, etc is not the same as having an extra ticket or not being able to make a show and giving it to a friend. It’s just not. It’s not even close.

      It seems like another case of mass insanity. Anyone googling this woman’s online activity and tweets can see from a mile away that she’s a fruitbat. The thing is, within the culture of a rabid fandom, this appears as normal behavior. It is common behavior, so it seems normal. Hopefully this will be a wake up call to some. Sorry this happened to you Dragonfly, but you were clearly suspending disbelief. Did you ever even check out her “corporation”?

      What I’m wondering about is the only person I’ve seen gain “donations” is the Gossip Candy blog owner. I rarely go there, and only through links, but she’s got a lot of ads. She makes money at this, and paying her own way is 100% deductable because it’s a business expense…

      • TopIdol permalink
        January 1, 2010 9:17 pm

        I don’t know how it worked for Gossip Candy, but I do know that she paid her way there with her own money and donations made through her site, at least for the airfare and hotel. Readers offered to donate after she was offered the VIP ticket.

        On the 30th, the whole mess came out. Apparently, this woman had reserved tables but never paid for them.

        I can’t decide if it was a real Glambert or a cruel troll who just wanted to screw with people. I am also still curious as to how many people, if any, lost money because of this bullshit. I think she also used a travel agency front or some such nonsense.

        • Mithra permalink
          January 1, 2010 9:39 pm

          If that was a troll, they should get some sort of Academy Award for posing as a tard – because they are a classic case with a LOOONNNGGG web trail of tarding, and they signed up at AI Official on May 2nd. May have had accounts before that and were banned because of all the flamewars.

          I wonder, since Gossip Candy paid up front, if she’s going to claim the full amount on her taxes 😉 Just in time for the end of the year too! How did the fools who “donated” to her little “VIP” vacation pay? Paypal account directly to her real name, or a business account?

          • TopIdol permalink
            January 1, 2010 9:56 pm

            This is why I was so apprehensive about putting the donation box on my site. I never want to be accused of defrauding anyone 😦

            • Mithra permalink
              January 1, 2010 10:37 pm

              You don’t have ads though, right? Oskar just needs a catnip fix here and there and maybe some tuna 😀 She also has ads for places like Amazon, and I know that not only do webmasters get money for the ads, but also the click throughs and a percentage if something is ordered. Seems like a heavy traffic site, so it ads up. She’s clearly using those funds for more than operating fees by pulling that. I don’t mean to accuse her of anything, but I think the facts need to be pointed out. Most people have never owned a business (most likely our new scammer Kymm as well) so they don’t know that a trip for someone with even a small business like an entertainment blog can be fully written off as business if she reports on events and posts pics and such. She may not make much through the blog, but can use a loss on expenses to deflect another business/source of income.

              Is that blog new, or does it’s focus change as her interests do?

              • TopIdol permalink
                January 1, 2010 10:48 pm

                I think it started out as a celebrity gossip blog and then morphed into Kradam and then to Lambert? It seems more Lambert than Kradam now?

                I will be moving my site over soon to its own domain (actually, it currently redirects to this one now…www.topidolblog.com) because with the amount of time I spend on this damn thing, I really need to be making money off of it. It is kind of like a second job. I don’t plan on going crazy with ads, though, but having Amazon and itunes links on blogs isn’t uncommon whatsoever. Plus, the percentage you make (with Amazon, its 6% of a sale) is pretty small.

                • Mithra permalink
                  January 1, 2010 11:37 pm

                  Okay, that’s making sense now. I clicked on it and I could have sworn it wasn’t a Kradam tard site at one point. Kinda dumb that she’s driven away her old readers with that stuff. Flying high for several months then…. new season!!!! She also wastes a lot of bandwidth with stupid GIFs.

                  I don’t find the ads offensive. I’ve seen some complain at Rickey’s about some Best Buy ad, but I never noticed a problem. I DO have a problem sometimes at MJs with some ad with a bad adobe file or something that freezes my computer 😦 . They, and VFTW and plenty of other places get by fine and it’s not a problem having ads as long as it’s doesn’t interfere with reading. I didn’t know the percentage. I do remember a friend always reminding people on his board to buy through his links if they are going to to help keep the site going. If you like reading a site, do whatever to support it, because it is a lot of work. Even if it’s just giving a few more hits a day and clicking links.

                  • erinnthered permalink
                    January 2, 2010 2:27 am

                    noscript! Works like a charm! Haven’t been hit by a buggy ad or malware since I started using it.

                  • blacklisted permalink
                    January 2, 2010 11:24 am

                    Norton picks up on at least one virus whenever I go to MJ’s. I never have problems with VTFW’s ads though. Maybe that should tell me something.

                    • on the edge permalink
                      January 3, 2010 12:54 am

                      My Symantec does the same thing, and the 360 iObit I have on another computer has detected some iffy stuff. Warning…I got a Trojan Vundo a month ago (causes pop-ups out the wazoo) and had to restore the whole computer. Thank goodness I still had the code for my MS Office download so I didn’t have to purchase again! But I think I may have gotten it from MJs, or one of the ads on there (or even a link in the comments). I did email and inform her about it, and my new-improved antivirus picks up on it only on her site (well, that and I Can Haz Cheezburger).

                    • on the edge permalink
                      January 3, 2010 12:55 am

                      Crap, and my last comment was in response to blacklisted re: her Norton detecting virus activity at MJs.

                • Verbally Dyslexic permalink
                  January 2, 2010 3:29 am

                  Here’s to hoping TI doesn’t go down that path. I see your inner Kristard exiting the plaid closet… 🙂 Still, the mockery must have a home and it’s already comfy here.

                  I have not been here in ages! Feels like it anyway.

                • erinnthered permalink
                  January 2, 2010 4:37 am

                  I was just lurking at Worst…how old is the woman running Gossip Candy? For some reason I thought she was at least under 35. I mean, that site is an eyesore, and from what little I’d seen, her posts are very…immature. At first I thought she was in her early twenties or late teens. I mean, the girl who runs ontd_ai is something like 16, right? Now that I see photos of her….really? Okay, now I’m not sure about her. She really should know better, and run a site that befits her age.

                  • Mithra permalink
                    January 2, 2010 10:41 am

                    I was shocked to find out some of the blingee making, what I thought were 13 year old rude brats in the Santard cult were actually even GRANDMOTHERS. It’s strange. I see this pattern and similarity again and again. Many look bad and old for their age as it is. Lots of crazy eyes in pics (and they never pick up on this). Also a lot with ratty long red hair, real or dyed. Adam’s got the same crew, but without the tw/eens, and unfortunately for him, without the gays too 😀 Oh the irony…

                    He and particularly Tommy, look like they are dying inside in those pics. What I find amazing is that these women get these photos back and cannot read what is so plain to others. They are so proud and post their prize. Seeing this latest batch is starting to make me feel sorry for the lot of them.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 2:49 pm

                      I’m cute and still would feel ridiculous posing with Adam Lambert in a photo. At the GMA concert, I had an opportunity to get Adam’s attention, and I suppose could have asked for a photo. However, it would have required me to yell out his name…in public. I could not do it. I could not debase myself in that way. At one point his mother was standing right next to me, I recognized her, she knew I recognized her, I just smiled and slithered away.

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 2, 2010 3:39 pm

                      Yeah, I don’t get why people want really horrible looking pics of themselves posing with someone who doesn’t know them. It’s weird. Never had the urge either. Or to go up and ask for an autograph. Only time I got those was a few times getting a gift CD or book signed for someone else, in the proper context of a signing. Celebs are people too, and it’s just not okay to treat them as an object when they are not required to act as one.

                      I think Adam is required to pose for pics, which is why many are in front of that red carpet type backdrop and he’s got his smile down pat, but eyes don’t lie. The ones where they caught Tommy look painful. He’s like “kill me now” 😀 Adam is used to it.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 4:41 pm

                      Mithra,
                      Believe it or not, I am shy and reserved in REAL life. I have met many celebrities over the years. One time, at a club, Rod Stewart sat on my hand. I just waited for him to get up. I said nothing.

                      I have thought about what I would say to Adam Lambert, if I ever met him, and I honestly can’t think of anything that would be relevant or interesting or even reasonable. What do these woman say to him? Are they squealing and gushing? Do they tell him all their problems? Ask him for money? Proposition him? Just listing the possibilities is making my stomach queasy with second hand embarrassment. Yet, I don’t have a problem tweeting him. I tweet him shit all the time.

                      If you found yourself in an elevator with Adam Lambert what would you say to him?

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 2, 2010 5:19 pm

                      OY, my post landed back ^^^ up there. Scroll up 8sourcandy 🙂 I’ve also met many celebs of various levels. Most normal people don’t bother someone because they are famous, that’s kind of why you can be in the same places and notice someone and maybe get a little excited, but continue to behave like someone who belongs. These women, I think it’s some sort of complex socio economic thing. I was discussing this earlier and it was suggested that the regressed behavior and immaturity of these women may have to do with years of child rearing. I think that is spot on, plus, socio economic, and lack of education. They go apeshit because they in their real lives never come in contact with “celebs” – and now through Idol in their homes, tarding on the internet, they step out into plotting high priced stalking. They need L Anne to teach them how to behave!

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:09 pm

                      The only way towards swanky salvation is L. Anne Carrington!

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:10 pm

                      I am fascinated by the whole thing. They all seem to have similar stories. The allegiance is mind boggling too. Very interesting, this tard stuff.

                    • erinnthered permalink
                      January 2, 2010 9:15 pm

                      What gets me are the people who not only lose it when they see a celeb, but have these crazy expectations. Working in the entertainment field gives you a different perspective on more than just celebrity. The average person has no idea how people get to where they are, and what goes on behind the scenes, and it seems most people can’t even make an accurate guess.

                      These women who make all these assumptions about what Adam is thinking or feeling. All that projecting. It’s worse than unhealthy. It’s unhinged.

                      I don’t think it’s the child rearing. I’ve known child-free people who get that way. I’ve seen people from many economic brackets too. It’s the same thing that gets them online. They want more than they have, but don’t have the capabilities, or the intelligence, to get it for themselves. They live vicariously through others instead. They build up this ivory tower around whoever they adore, and project whatever it is that they dream of on to them.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 9:31 pm

                      When I meet Adam and faint, I expect him to swoop down and nurse me back to health, completely ignoring his other adoring fans 🙂
                      He will then tell me how much he loves his fans that try to rip his clothing off and then ask me to marry him.
                      That’s not too much to expect, right?

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 3, 2010 2:18 pm

                      erinnthered,

                      Very good observations. I think the early breeding though does factor in when connected to other things, at least for a lot of them. I have friends with kids and they are nothing like that, but it’s back to other factors, socio economic. I’ve seen so many with handles including their motherhood in it, which to me is weird that this is so much of their identity. It basically probably WAS their identity, and now the new one is, as you say, living vicariously the dream life away from “hubby” and with a fantistical magical TV star/pop idol.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 12, 2010 1:03 am

                      I put my money on Daddy issues. Adam has a strong paternal vibe, he’s even commented on it, that draws in people with a need for approval and recognition. Ironically, those are the very things that motivates him to succeed.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 12, 2010 1:04 am

                      why is my post way down here?

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:52 pm

                      I would go “jdskileufg,liey I fricken love you!” And then faint.

                    • blacklisted permalink
                      January 2, 2010 7:48 pm

                      “If you found yourself in an elevator with Adam Lambert what would you say to him?”

                      Want to say: ‘Please do a photoshoot sans makeup. The freckles are cute, the facial features are appealing, the eyes are beautiful. Some of us would love to see you au natural (meaning no glop on the face).”

                      Would say: “Could you please press number 2 for me. Thanks.”

                    • Sherena permalink
                      January 2, 2010 10:54 pm

                      Pretty much this. Yes. Exactly. 🙂

                    • Sherena permalink
                      January 2, 2010 10:54 pm

                      Was replying to blacklisted. I’m not sure why some comments just end up at the bottom even when you’re trying to reply?

                    • Sherena permalink
                      January 2, 2010 10:55 pm

                      And was replying about the elevator thing.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 3, 2010 1:59 am

                      That was sweet.

                      If you ever do find yourself in an elevator with him, I hope you have the balls to go with what you want to say! 🙂

                    • Verbally Dyslexic permalink
                      January 2, 2010 11:05 pm

                      If you found yourself in an elevator with Adam Lambert what would you say to him?

                      (a) “Should I brace myself for a stampede?” (looks around cautiously)

                      (b) “Liza! I love your work! You’re taller than I expected.”

                      (c) Nothing, unless he says something first.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 3, 2010 2:04 am

                      I hope I’m in the elevator too. AND you go with 1 or 2! LOL. 🙂

                    • Trish permalink
                      January 3, 2010 10:55 am

                      I have thought about what I would say to Adam Lambert, if I ever met him, and I honestly can’t think of anything that would be relevant or interesting or even reasonable.

                      That’s because you’re sane!

                      Seriously, I’ve asked myself the same thing about David Cook. How about: “Loved you on the show. And I bought your album.”

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 3, 2010 10:59 am

                      I seriously think “jhlkjgkhfdrts I am going to marry you some day!” and then fainting is so much of a better way.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:43 pm

                      Are you kidding me?! If I had the chance I would have screamed for him as loudly as possible and made a complete fool of myself in public. I might not ask for a photo, (I don’t want to see my crazed expression), but I would definitely ask for a hug 🙂
                      I definitely would have flailed to his mom too about how amazing he is.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:56 pm

                      At 16, that is adorable. NOT 16, not so adorable.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 7:43 pm

                      Aw, I think any age under 20 would be cute!

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 8:02 pm

                      Yes, under twenty.

                  • blacklisted permalink
                    January 2, 2010 11:21 am

                    Judging by pictures, Gossip Candy can’t be a day under 45.

                  • 8sourcandy permalink
                    January 2, 2010 12:56 pm

                    She said she was the same age as the EX Pat woman. I believe she’s in the mid thirties.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 1:00 pm

                      I always though she looked like she was in her thirties. Don’t know why people are saying she looks older.

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 2, 2010 2:03 pm

                      The Expat Twat is maybe 2 or 3 years older than me? I don’t really feel like I’m age bracket appropriate, though. And not in a frauen way, but like in a my life is nothing like people my age with spouses and/or kids.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 2:51 pm

                      You look younger..maybe 25-28 range.

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:13 pm

                      I love you. Like love love love you.

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:49 pm

                      Is that your sparkle cow impersonation?

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:50 pm

                      That was for TI.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 6:47 pm

                      She definitely does. I’m kinda curious to what everyone here looks like. I put a picture of me as my avatar in hopes that others will follow.

                    • Trish permalink
                      January 3, 2010 10:58 am

                      Sweetheart, I think you’re fabulous. But you don’t want your photo showing here when you’re applying to colleges. It’s just too easy to trace these things. Trust me.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 3, 2010 11:00 am

                      Why would it matter if colleges traced me here? Wait…would it…?

                    • Trish permalink
                      January 3, 2010 11:07 am

                      Why would it matter if colleges traced me here? Wait…would it…?

                      It probably wouldn’t, but why take any chances?

                      Kids take the freedom of the Internet completely for granted. And why shouldn’t they? But it’s kind of like with tattoos: What was cute a few years ago could become an embarrassment in a year (or decade) in the future. And not everybody gets irony and humor. Imagine if some underpaid dolt in admissions at Brown or Dartmouth thinks you really WOULD throw yourself at Adam Lambert if given the opportunity. (And then imagine the “Glamberts” being painted with the same paintbrush as the “Claymates”!).

                    • Lauren permalink
                      January 3, 2010 12:51 pm

                      That’s true I guess. I changed my picture but it hasn’t shown up yet :/

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 3, 2010 2:07 pm

                      It’s showing up. You really should take it down. Never post your real name either. It’s unfortunate, but there is also a problem with larger forums and communities – not everyone is a good person. This blog should prove that alone. Even if you have been careful from day one like I have, you can get burned and attacked. I was involved with a group of connected MBs and knew many in the real world. There were also complete assholes who were regular posters, but that’s a given. What wasn’t, and long story so I’ll make it short, a friend of mine was being befriended/stalked by a kooky frau who I think had a lesbian crush on her. Woman was even getting a divorce because she was in online love with another friend and thought she had a chance with him. Strange as hell, but anyway, she was also a gossip for attention and then spilled tons of twisted personal info to others who are not so nice. I defended my friend and ended up with a creeper who I do not know in real life, but friends I do know him, posting my real name and website and attacking me. I got it taken down but that was a nightmare. Remember even in smaller communities like this, it’s connected to a whole lot of AI scary because it can be read by anyone.

                    • Lauren permalink
                      January 3, 2010 2:35 pm

                      I mean, I can’t see anyone attacking me as really the only place I regularly post is here. I have never given out my last name so I don’t think we will have an issue with that. I’m trying to change my pic but wordpress is being mean.

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 3, 2010 3:35 pm

                      Good, just be careful. Like I said, I’ve always been careful and still ended up with a fucking stalker creep.

                      On to more Glamtard madness, they seem to be mass imploding:

                      http://twitter.com/adamlambertbaby

                      Smartie posted the first half of the drama at VFTW. It now seems this one was lying for attention too 😀

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 3, 2010 3:43 pm

                      My pic is Kradam now so all better 🙂
                      Yeah I saw that! I tried to tell a couple people that she was faking but no one listened. What a bitch. Telling all her friends that she’s close to death as a joke. Anyway I feel kinda bad for those tricked though you would have to be pretty gullible to believe her. She saw the reaction to Terri’s tragic death and wanted that type of attention. I don’t have to words to describe how much I loathe her for that.

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 3, 2010 4:07 pm

                      Faking a serious injury in the hopes Adam Lambert will mention you in a Tweet?

                      KLASSY!!!

                    • Smartie permalink
                      January 3, 2010 9:02 pm

                      Swanky?

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 3, 2010 3:55 pm

                      Yeah, it seems funny. One minute, she’s begging for Twitter followers and the next, a goal post cracks her head open?

                      What Glambert even goes on an athletic field?

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 3, 2010 4:08 pm

                      I think one of her posts even was “I’m about to go under. Tell Adam I love him!”
                      *facepalm* LOL! She’s getting mad at people yelling at her. They have every right to yell at her after that.

                    • erinnthered permalink
                      January 2, 2010 8:54 pm

                      I’m the same. Early thirties, no house/kids/spouse. It’s so different now with some of my oldest friends because many of them are like that now.

                      I don’t buy that she’s in her early/mid thirties. Not with that neck. Fourties….maybe.

                    • Mithra permalink
                      January 2, 2010 3:29 pm

                      By mid thirties you mean she was born in the mid 1930’s, right? Was she a pal of Rosequeen back then? 😀

                      No way in hell is she mid 30s judging by those pics. I’ve seen rough looking women in their thirties but not THAT rough. Plus – do these women not own mirrors? I guess it explains somewhat why they are so gaga over a guy who wears bad clothes, too much make up, and looks like Liza Minnilli. He’s like Claylene, turning into one of his frauen.

                • 8sourcandy permalink
                  January 2, 2010 12:53 pm

                  It’s like Tiger Beat magazine for middle-aged women.

                  • erinnthered permalink
                    January 2, 2010 8:47 pm

                    See…that’s not okay. Really.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 9:27 pm

                      what isn’t?

                    • erinnthered permalink
                      January 2, 2010 10:01 pm

                      Oops. This ended up at the bottom. I was responding to…8sourcandy?…about Gossip Candy being Tiger Beat for middle aged women. It’s skeevy.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 10:04 pm

                      Does anyone actually read Tiger Beat anymore?

                    • 8sourcandy permalink
                      January 3, 2010 2:00 am

                      Does it even exist anymore?

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 3, 2010 10:42 am

                      I think so. My grandma bought it for me once a couple of years ago…It just had a bunch of Jonas Brothers posters and gossip about Miley Cyrus.

                • 8sourcandy permalink
                  January 2, 2010 2:11 pm

                  Gossip Candy is evenly divided between Kris and Adam posts. She prides herself on it’s fairness. Her posts are updated many times throughout the day and are often very funny. Unfortunately, during Kradam’s heyday it was a love fest of “tinhatting” and “shipping” all things that confirmed their relationship was real.

                  That’s when I stopped going there. I thought is was cute at first, but, then it became too ridiculous. That seems to have settled down now. However, it is a very click-centric site, with newcomers often made to feel like they are intruding. Candy chides those who brake with the kumbaya tone she has painstakingly created.

                  As for the scam…
                  I can see her using her site’s donations to finance trips and to acquire VIP tickets to events, if her reason for going is to provide coverage of that event for her readers. I was taken aback when she requested donations for a new outfit for herself, and plane fare/event ticket for her girlfriend. She posted a second donation button just to raise money for that. I thought that was a bit tacky. Had the coverage been stellar, I probably wouldn’t balk about it, however, the coverage she and her girlfriend provided was minimal, to say the least.

                  Maybe this scam is just Karma weighing in.

                  • Nich permalink
                    January 2, 2010 4:22 pm

                    I agree asking for money for new clothes (wear what you got!) and plane fare for a friend is tacky.

                  • blacklisted permalink
                    January 2, 2010 7:46 pm

                    “Unfortunately, during Kradam’s heyday it was a love fest of “tinhatting” and “shipping” all things that confirmed their relationship was real.”

                    8sourcandy is on point. I used to check out GC especially because their Kradam forum thread outlining the ‘proof’ of Kradam being ‘real’ was HILARIOUS. Alas, they dissed Matty G. *sniff*. If there is one thing I won’t tolerate, it’s hate on poor, pathetic Matt.

                    “I was taken aback when she requested donations for a new outfit for herself, and plane fare/event ticket for her girlfriend. She posted a second donation button just to raise money for that. I thought that was a bit tacky.”

                    Yep, totally trashy.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 2, 2010 7:49 pm

                      Did she actually diss Matt? I mean I know of all the Matt scorned stuff. But that’s just silly fun. Did GC actually insult him?

                    • blacklisted permalink
                      January 2, 2010 8:01 pm

                      GC is good peeps. It’s the crazies that hang out at the forum and would post on the long ass Kradam thread. The one where they would post their cray cray ‘proof’ about Kradam and which they were paranoid would get ‘found out’ by the press.

                      http://www.gossipcandy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5

                      Some of the loons dissed Matty, basically implying that he hated Adam and was jealous and homophobic. It especially got out of hand when Matt said he wasn’t delivering fantard letters to Adam (when they were at the barracades and screaming at Matt’s face for Adam, asking him to deliver their ‘messages’). Stupid bitches. That thread is HILARIOUS though. I used to read it but then it became way too loony and an eyesore. The funniest part was that the Kradam tards had nicknames for everyone (Kris, Adam, Katy, Drake) and they thought that there was a big conspiracy where Drake was bearding for Adam.

                  • gossip candy permalink
                    January 10, 2010 1:14 pm

                    umm please post the exact place where I asked for donations for a new outfit and plane tix for my GF. I never did such a thing. People at my site were very generous and in the end I did have enough to get my GF there. I bought my top on clearance at bebe for $30!

                    People at my site suggested I add a donation button when I said i was offered a VIP ticket but didn’t really have the money to be flying out to CA and doing all this. So i did.

                    I don’t care if people don’t like my site or whatever but get your facts straight.

                    • lauren722 permalink
                      January 13, 2010 7:14 am

                      I like your site! Kradam is my life! *is a suck-up*

            • 8sourcandy permalink
              January 2, 2010 7:41 pm

              Donations are free of any stipulation. I can’t imagine someone accusing you of defrauding them. I think the swag, donations and deals you get as a result of your site, are earned. If you bragged about it or asked for addition donations to support a trip, even if it is business related, then you open yourself up to speculation and ridicule. It is just good manners and common sense.

              • TopIdol permalink
                January 3, 2010 1:01 pm

                This is what I will accept for Season 9:

                Spoilers! Send me legitimate spoilers if you have them!
                If anyone is going to an AI rehearsal or show and knows awhile in ahead of time, or if I put an APB out for my annual springtime trip to LA, I would love it if someone could include me as a +1, but only because it will make my inevitable begging along the line easier.

          • erinnthered permalink
            January 2, 2010 2:21 am

            If fans want to donate to a blogger they like, then let them. The blogger is a writer – an artist – who offers work in return. Maintaining something like that is a full time job, and this is one way they get paid. Ad revenue doesn’t always cut it. The only thing I’d question was if she claimed she needed help with bills, then suddenly went on a vacation to Hawaii. If her fans want to support her trip, let them. She was upfront about everything.

      • blacklisted permalink
        January 1, 2010 9:19 pm

        Gossip candy getting ‘donations’ for her trip reminds me of a Harry Potter BNF (big name fan) who got a group of people to buy her a computer. That shit was an obvious set up back in the day. Alas, the old tricks continue working, thus why should supposed BNF’s give them up.

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 2, 2010 2:23 am

          Yeah, but the Cassandra Claire thing was scam. She could afford to buy her own computer, but didn’t have to. Plus, fanfiction is not the same as running a website with a blog. It’s actually illegal to take money for the former. You don’t own the rights to the characters.

          • TopIdol permalink
            January 2, 2010 3:23 am

            I would never pay money for fan fiction. Never. Not even if it was an NC-17 picture book with perfect photoshops of myself and Don Draper.

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 2, 2010 3:34 am

              There are people would, though. I’m not sure what’s scarier. That people would buy that book because of their love for Jon Hamm, or because of their love for Don Draper. O_0

  17. Mithra permalink
    January 1, 2010 4:56 pm

    Saw the new info. Hmm, has there been any proof she actually collected money herself? The only one I’ve seen in this airfare scam who got “donations” is this Gossip Candy woman. I’ve been to her site and she has a lot of ads…

    I’m wondering about a few things. Could Kymm Leibel be working with someone else, more of an in the background type of grifter? Real grifters cannot be tards, because they are too focused on themselves and getting what they want. A tard like Leibel is focused on ADAM. A lot. She could be doing the good old trick of trying to gain access into his “TEAM” for her own position, but she does not have the traditional grifter personality. In fact, the grifters come across as interested, but far more reserved. What I’ve seen two particular cases, one minor, one huge – is that the grifter enlists a crazy and needy tard as the face of the scam to other tards. A cheerleader of sorts. They will trust one of their own.

    Example: There was a woman who is an online jewelry seller who came late in the game to the scaryboard Adam folder. I forgot her name, but she enlisted “chaotica”, an annoying ever present tard to hawk her “custom made Official Glambert# bracelets – for only $15 plus shipping and handling…oh, and check out the other things for sale” 😉 She’s one of many that showed up, but you could tell by her posts she was just latching on. She needed a tard as saleperson.

    A bigger example and far more complex is a tale of two grifters (mamajaya and pooja) and their use of a crazy tard to rally the troops to the board they set up. Too long of a story, but basically a grifter (pooja) used a crazed fan (Lou) to get contestant’s grifter mother on board for a bizzaro money grab that included 4H visa scams, social climbing in the Asian community, and “Indigo Child” cult crap and spoon bending…

    My point is that there may be someone behind Kymm Leibel’s work.

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 1, 2010 6:01 pm

      The main stuff which is annoying me, at this point, is the Cassidy Haley stuff. This person knowingly contacted both Haley and his fanclub leaders to “volunteer”, therefore giving her access and “clout” amongst the most devoted Glamberts.

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 2, 2010 2:07 am

        But how is that different than any other fan who wants access to Adam? Granted, she’s bruised a few egos and caused some pain, but she sounds like a pathological liar who got caught. That is, if she didn’t take money. If she did, then yeah, that’s different.

    • Brian permalink
      January 21, 2010 2:55 am

      I know that this Kymm Leibal woman and her husband and kids are living at the Baymont Inn in Sioux City Iowa

  18. Trish permalink
    January 1, 2010 4:51 pm

    She said I came to mind and I had been an Adam fan from the very first so she wanted to reward me by paying for my plane ticket, my hotel, my VIP tickets and Red Carpet VIP Tent Access.

    I’m confused; if she was offering to buy them all their plane tix, etc., what money did they lay out aside from incidentals like “clothing, luggage, jewelry, shoes etc.”? And can’t these women just RETURN all this sh*t?

    Sounds like this “Kymm” chick was trying to one-up the M.D. who bought thousands of dollars of Adam’s iTunes singles for his bestest and/or most destitute fans. P.T. Barnum is having a good laugh from the grave at this one.

  19. blacklisted permalink
    January 1, 2010 4:42 pm

    A sucker is born every minute.

    I’m not surprised that Gossip Candy and some of those girlies got scammed. Those chicks are the most gullible bunch when it comes to bullshit Kradam stuff thus scamming them would be a piece of cake.

    As a New Yorker who belonged to the most sock puppet, scamming fandom (Harry Potter), stuff like this never surprises me. The ignorance and gullibility of grown ass women is the only part that sometimes surprises me. I mean, how can they manage in the real world when they haven’t figured out that the net made up of fake identities/screennames.

    • erinnthered permalink
      January 2, 2010 2:02 am

      Oh wow. I have to ask. Were you around for Ms Scribe? I’m kind of becoming a tard of her story. It’s crazy.

      I’m actually doing research for a film script, so these kinds of stories are a real help. They’re original characters, but “devoted” fans.

      • blacklisted permalink
        January 2, 2010 11:18 am

        Yep, I was around during Ms. Scribe.

        Anyone who’s ever been in fandom should read the Ms. Scribe story. Not only did she play every trick in the book, she created some new ones. Oh, the fun times spent on fandom wank. No other fandom measures up. Supernatural fandom tries, alas, even those crazies can’t touch HP. *sigh*

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 2, 2010 8:42 pm

          No kidding about HP fandom. I love Harry Potter, but I always just talked and geeked out about it with RL friends. I was warned at the time not to go anywhere near the online fandom. It’s pretty…interesting.

          Have you seen that VB from LOTR fandom even managed to work her way into HP? She’s taking on Ms Scribe with her level of delusional behavior. Different, but still vast and amazing.

          I do agree with you that everyone who interested or involved in fandom on any level should read about Ms Scribe. It’s a cautionary tale. I’d say the same about Cassandra Claire. Between her machinations for gifts and attention, and her penchant to plagiarize, she’s another one that people could learn a lot from.

  20. lil lulu permalink
    January 1, 2010 4:08 pm

    I’m not going to kick those Glamberts when they’re down, but it’s stories like this that make me happy I’m such a cynical, untrusting bitch.

    Everyone who operates a fansite of any sort should post this in their faq:
    a. The “friendships” you make in these few months are based purely on mutual devotion to some guy on a reality TV show. These people don’t “know” you, nor do you “know” them. So before you take up a collection on the board for someone’s vet bills for their kitty, or for an airline voucher to a devoted, but impoverished fan so she can travel the country with the rest of you following our Idol, think about how that money could be used if you were to help a member of your OWN family or one of your OWN life-long, real-life friends.
    b. What do you teach your children about the internet? That people they have never met in real life can pretend to be ANYTHING in a chat room or on a message board. Right? So, why would you make plans to meet up and share a hotel room with a total stranger you “met” a few months ago on-line just because the two of you are going to the same AI concert? Why????
    c. While I’m sure there are a few generous people out there who would love to share their wealth by giving fellow fans concert tickets, etc, be on the safe side. If you can’t afford to go to a concert, live with it. It’s disappointing, but not really that huge of a deal in the grand scheme of things. In other words: Don’t take candy from strangers.

  21. nonna-muss permalink
    January 1, 2010 3:54 pm

    She seems to have graduated from the L Anne School of Tarding with a Masters Degree in Holly Sockpuppets Scamming. One to keep our eyes on. Has she tarded for anyone else and done the same? Claylene perhaps?

  22. Mithra permalink
    January 1, 2010 3:15 pm

    I checked the KLEIBELX2 name further through google. Links to pages and pages of comments all over the place on youtube, music sites, Rolling Stone, gossip blogs, gay blogs, etc. All the same name of course, so the others (and most importantly ADAM) see what a good fan she is! Also Typical OTT tard. I wonder if she wanted to be Queen Tard so badly that she boxed herself into this corner just to be it for a short period? I mean, she had to know the time was ticking and she’d be found out…

  23. Mithra permalink
    January 1, 2010 2:43 pm

    General,

    Don’t you feel a tad bit silly calling yourself this?

    Like I mentioned in the other thread (I didn’t know this was being written up!) – that name rang a bell and I checked her twitter. She was all over the Terri situation, the woman who was murdered Christmas Eve. I haven’t scrolled back that far to read it yet, but http://twitter.com/KLEIBELX2 is a typical tard. She’s also trying to get Glamtards to donate Adam’s CDs to womens shelters. Also spams radio stations. I don’t think a scam artist would go through the type of trouble or even have the ability to mimic such inaneness.

    I was under the impression she promised these people airfare, rooms etc, all at HER expense. I think we’re looking at an attention seeking scam, like an L Anne.

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 1, 2010 3:35 pm

      I’ve found out more and its a helluva lot worse. Definitely attention-seeking and I think her lies ran pretty fraking deep.

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 2, 2010 1:55 am

        So she did scam money off of people? I was confused. It’s terrible to lie to people, but if she didn’t take money from them, then I do look at this differently. Bruised egos are very real, and my heart goes out to all those people even if they could have saved themselves the trouble with a little research.

        This is going to be a big one, isn’t it?

    • January 1, 2010 3:44 pm

      I can’t stop laughing about the whole donating Adam’s cds to a shelter thing. Because we all know that’s what they really want and need. Not toiletries, clothing, food or infant care items.

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 2, 2010 1:57 am

        How different is that than sending them to the troops? Not like they could use some chapstick, or an iTunes giftcard to pick their own favorite music.

        All CD drives are deplorable, IMHO.

  24. January 1, 2010 2:02 pm

    Sorry Mysterioso, just stating where I am coming from to add legitimacy to my opinion on the situation. As far as anything bilogical happening at the time I created my post, well, that’s up to your imagination I suppose.

  25. Mysterioso permalink
    January 1, 2010 2:00 pm

    “As one of the generals of Cassidy Haley’s Street Street (the Army) and producer of The Catalyst, I assure you that Cassidy Haley and my fellow generals were unaware of this individual’s activities.” Moo, mooo, moooo…

    Ann Marie, does all this street teaming make your fat vagina wet? Stupid cow.

    • Lauren permalink
      January 1, 2010 3:39 pm

      There is nothing wrong with street-teaming for an artist trying to break into the industry. Unless she has Cassidy’s eyes tattooed onto her back, I’d leave her alone. Not going to lie, I’m a proud member of Allison Iraheta’s street-team.

      • January 1, 2010 3:56 pm

        Street teaming is kind of lame and not that helpful in procuring serious interest in an artist that might actually lead to a recording contract.

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 2, 2010 1:53 am

          Actually it does help. It depends on how it’s done. An organized street team can help with bookings and filling “seats.” They can also make good contacts in clubs and bars that will get A&R out to your shows. So yes, a good street team can help you get a record contract.

          I ended up working in music pr briefly. Real street teaming is nothing like handing out flyers to strangers on the street.

          As long you guys are there to support Cassidy, I think what you’re doing is wonderful. But if any of it has anything to do with getting closer to Adam I wish a pox on all of you. It won’t work. Got it?

          • lauren722 permalink
            January 2, 2010 1:54 am

            🙂

          • 8sourcandy permalink
            January 2, 2010 11:48 am

            Erinthered,

            I agree with your comments. Street teams are beneficial for relatively unknown artists.

      • Sherena permalink
        January 2, 2010 7:00 pm

  26. Nich permalink
    January 1, 2010 1:51 pm

    I do feel bad for anyone who gets conned or scammed. That really sucks and I hope that chick gets caught. But “emotionally raped”? Really?

  27. January 1, 2010 1:50 pm

    As one of the generals of Cassidy Haley’s Street Street (the Army) and producer of The Catalyst, I assure you that Cassidy Haley and my fellow generals were unaware of this individual’s activities. The Army is a group of volunteers who came together to aide the career of Cassidy Haley — we were scammed like everyone else. Please note, our street team materials on cafepress.com are available to street teamers who want them. We do not profit from the sales. Our .net site accepts donations via PayPal for Cassidy Haley and those donations go from the donator straight to Cassidy. The Army does not benefit from any donation. This individual does not represent what we are all about. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. On twitter: @comeundone and my email is tzatziki730@optonline.net. thanks!

  28. Mysterioso permalink
    January 1, 2010 1:18 pm

    I can’t believe that one gullible Glambert thought she was going to get plane tickets from New Zealand, VIP passes, and a seat at a $7,500 table from a complete stranger. And had her bags packed, and ready to go…..

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 1, 2010 1:21 pm

      And she was standing by the door, she hates to wake you up to say goodbye. But she wasn’t leaving on a jet plane, doesn’t know when she’ll be scammed again…

  29. fefe4Adam permalink
    January 1, 2010 1:18 pm

    Gaining respect for Top Idol! Fefe

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