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Dear Adam Lambert, I hate (a lot of) your fans. Love, Top Idol

January 26, 2010

Although we’ve already moved onto season 9 of the wondrous shit show otherwise known as American Idol, a particular group of batshit crazy nutjobs (Hmmm…who could it be…hmmm…who could it be now?) continue to raise the bar of abject deploribility and utter hilarity.

And before we start, for those who might be new, one Kris Allen and one Adam Lambert have not been in technical “competition” with one another since May 2009. However, this ongoing battle has never ended for some women, whom, for collective purpose, we refer to as Glamberts or Glamtards. They’re like the Vietnam vet Bruce Springsteen sings about in I’m On Fire. These bitches totally wake up in the middle of the night with a freight train running through the middle of their heads.

And Kris Allen’s head (sitting atop a plaid shirt, of course) is on the side of that freight train. That freight train is blaring his music for miles around and the freight is obviously his CDs.

So Kris Allen got the gig singing The Star-Spangled Banner before yesterday’s NFC Showdown between the Minnesota Vikings and the New Orleans Saints. I liked his performance. Some people did not care for it and thought it was pitchy or whatever. That’s fine. I don’t expect you to like everything a person does. That’s just freakish. Obviously, the overzealous Glamberts were going to rip on his performance, even if he somehow busted out a falsetto that brought Scott Joplin and Kate Smith back to life while eagles flew out of his ass.

But let me back up a minute. Kris Allen gives an obligatory interview to a local New Orleans radio station. He is super chatty and humorous. He also casually mentions he is going to go to Haiti to do some relief work.

Here we fucking go. Guess what? Kris Allen is a drunk media whore exploiting the tragedy in Haiti for his own PR needs.

I just don’t see how Kris’ not so sucessful missionary experiences could qualify him in emergancy rescue.

First off, you stupid twat, Kris Allen didn’t just go places to preach that Jesus stuff. He actually assisted in relief efforts after the tsunami in Thailand. I believe he’s also been to South Africa, where he worked with AIDS-infected orphans. Hey, his passport looks better than mine, I’ve just been to Europe a lot. I don’t agree with most missionary work, mind you, but that’s besides the point — how do we know the missionary work (or the actual trip itself) was unsuccessful? And emergency rescue? Maybe if you didn’t spend so much time diddling yourself to the KEEP UNTIL I DELETE episode of last week’s Oprah with special guest Adam Lambert on your DVR, you would know the emergency rescue phase, for the most part, is sort of over. Now its about digging out the bodies and rebuilding, caring for those who survived, all the grisly aftermath.

(For chrissake, are you telling me you’ve never known anyone who did anything with Habitat for Humanity? Last year, my niece went and built houses in central Mexico for her senior spring break.)

This guy had no business singing the National Anthem. A pure travesty. ITA with Chris Sligh. BTW, what is Kris doing in Haiti? Is he trying to promote his album? I mean, you hardly near anything about his humanitarian efforts. I guess he is too busy trying to promote himself.

If Adam Lambert announced he was going to Haiti, you idiots would start calling the Nobel Committee in Oslo in attempts to get him nominated for next year’s Nobel Peace Prize. If Adam Lambert adopted a little black baby from some African country to which you cannot pronounce the name, you would spend a few hours incessantly tweeting him and all of your little cronies how he’s the greatest humanitarian. Then you would peel yourself off your fat ass and get in your car. You would blare his For Your Entertainment CD  (one of the 69 you own) while you drove to the Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd in your nearest town/city and proceed to kidnap some tiny black infant or toddler, take him home, dress him up like Lambert and rename him Kunta Adam Kunte Fierce. Then you would tweet about it and take some Twitpics of this poor, sobbing kidnapped child developing an eye infection because you painted him up with black eyeliner in a desperate attempt to be named the BESTEST BIGGEST FIERCEST TRUEST GLAMBERT.

Sometimes the best thing to say in life is nothing at all. In hindsight Kris should have never opened his mouth about his volunteer trip to Haiti. He set himself up for a lot of flap without even realizing it, I am sure. Hopefully next time he does something like this he will have learned his lesson and not talked about it or waited to talk about it when he comes home. Altruism is always a double edged sword.

Who are you? And I think its flack, not flap. Doesn’t surprise me, though. You’re pretty much a complete idiot.

Lyndsey Parker, popular Yahoo! columnist (Reality Rocks) has long been a big Adam Lambert fan. Of course, all hell breaks loose if she ever says a nice thing about Kris Allen. Because when you’re a batshit crazy Idol fan, you can’t like BOTH of them. When Lyndsey posted a nice article about Allen’s upcoming trip to Haiti, did you really expect the lunatics to keep their fat traps shut?

Haven’t the people of Haiti suffered enough without having to be subjected to this cheap publicity stunt? Stay home Kris Allen, no one needs to hear your screeching and caterwauling at a time like this. I hope you donate EVERY PENNY to relief efforts instead of making a fast buck off the suffering of others. And to your friends going around posting positive comments for you, shame on you!”

Ah, yes. One of those concerned trolls I hear so much about.

It’s funny that Kris is going down to Haiti. I hope it is not to exploit the situation – and just get publicity for himself and to pump some life into his album. Because you hardly hear of Kris’ humanitarian efforts – even though he supposedly did missionary work prior to Idol. But I guess he has been too busy just promoting himself and making money. We all know the causes Adam is involved in, but there has been zilch re Kris.

Oh! Another one. This one has MD in her name, therefore, she must be an AUTHORITY. She is a CONCERNED TROLL WITH SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE NO ONE ELSE HAS BECAUSE SHE HAS MD IN HER ONLINE HANDLE. (Those are the best!)

I don’t question Kris’ intention to go to Haiti, but if he almost died in a missionary trip then IMO he should seriosly consider what value he can bring to the Haiti people – they def don’t need another patient. Even if it’s not a PR thing, in some way this trip could just be a charity consumption that is more to satisfy the individual’s need of sympathy than to *really* benifit the paople in the subject.

I’m not going to judge anyone on their charitable efforts, but I do recall you people also claiming how Adam Lambert was infinitely better because he set up that thing and Kris Allen had attached himself to nothing. Adam Lambert basically stuck his name on a cause and got people to donate, of course, he did offer a special chat with the group who raised the most money. So you people emptied out your bank accounts. did very well, I think, however, you only gave money because you thought you could get closer to your beloved savior.

Kris Allen didn’t really advertise his missionary/relief efforts while on Idol. Or how he got super sick during one such excursion, so sick, in fact, that it took him months to recover. Which makes him even more likable. Hell, Scott MacIntyre (aka The Blind Guy) didn’t bring up the face he had someone else’s kidney. Imagine if he had only made kidney shapes with his hands! He could have stuck around at least another week. Sob stories on Idol make me gag, and I always prefer the contestants who don’t pull that shit.

Kris Allen went on American Idol to perform music. Adam Lambert went on it to be famous. Sure, Kris Allen just got to sing at one of the biggest football games of the year. Adam Lambert got to do red carpet coverage of the SAG awards with E! To each his own. Both of them are trying to build careers. If Kris Allen wants to fly down to Haiti to help give food or clothing, or assist in building shelter, so be it. If Adam Lambert wants to go chit chat with Oprah, who cares. These guys are no longer competing against one another, therefore, you idiots should really get over it.

And if Kris Allen never went on Idol, or even made it as far as he did, don’t you think he might already be in Haiti helping out? It’s not like its something out of character for someone who has been involved in similar endeavors since he was a teenager.

Spewing out such hatred over some guy because he’s doing well just because you’re still bitter he beat your glittery god from planet fierce on a television show which proves itself to be less and less relevant with each passing season? What good do you think this does? Any? I really don’t understand how you people are so psychologically screwed. You should really be trying to get into some of those medical studies. Hey! It’s more money in which to buy Lambert CDs! But most of all, why do you act like such asshats when you should probably know by now that your lord & savior Adam Lambert would probably tell you to go to hell if you said the shit you write on message boards to his face.

Seriously, Glamberts, Glamtards, whatever the hell you are. Your behavior is disgusting. And trust me, you’re not winning any more fans for your lord & savior. You make it very difficult to separate the crazy from the actual Adam, even though we all know you guys are just the pathetic bunch who do nothing else with your time but obsess over the poor guy. Wow. You know something else? I think its your concerted efforts which keep making Kris Allen gain more fans, you know, those fans you talk about who exist outside of the Idol bubble. I don’t know if that’s true, necessarily, as most people just don’t pay attention to American Idol.

Haha, “Chris Allen” is a hot search topic on Google. Looks like his NA got people’s attention. Too bad they don’t know how to spell his name.

To be fair, most people with only a casual knowledge of American Idol might not know his name. A lot of them think that gay guy won. And unfortunately, they don’t know his name, either, let alone how to spell it.

That’s life. You should get out more.

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  1. deez permalink
    February 9, 2010 4:16 pm

    Any Idol that needs voice coaching after being in the top 10
    needs to be defended as much as possible

    I find this to be a terribly ignorant statement,(apparently, as a Kristard, I know ignorance!!haha) So when someone attains a goal, they are perfect? They stop learning? Pro athletes (golfers, tennis players, runners, etc)…all have coaches! It doesn’t mean you are incompetent, it means you are are interested in improvement. I would be willing to bet that several of the idols ( possibly even Adam) have a vocal coach.

    • Lauren permalink
      February 9, 2010 6:10 pm


  2. TedW permalink
    February 6, 2010 3:35 pm

    The feeling is mutual here, Kris fans are obnoxious, Jealous, ignorant, and try to build up their dying want to be singer.
    Any Idol that needs voice coaching after being in the top 10
    needs to be defended as much as possible, so someone has to be the
    scapegoat..The childish Jealousy of Allens fan base is just as quilty
    of being tards, so, good luck in saving your Arkansas Idol..cheers.

    • Lauren permalink
      February 6, 2010 8:00 pm

      When did “jealous” become a proper noun? Anyway, why can’t you just love them both? I don’t see Kris as a dying singer. It just isn’t happening.

      • on the edge permalink
        February 6, 2010 8:21 pm

        Amen Lauren! To quote Roberta Flack, “where is the love?”

        • Lauren permalink
          February 6, 2010 9:40 pm

          Yes! Can’t we all just hug?

      • February 6, 2010 9:59 pm

        Quilty Jealous Kristards and your dying want to be singer!

        • Lauren permalink
          February 6, 2010 10:02 pm

          Haha I am adopting the term “quilty” for the tard contest!

          • jukejoint permalink
            February 6, 2010 10:23 pm

            I bet the memaw in the other thread quilts. I bet she’s quilty!

          • February 6, 2010 10:35 pm

            Jealousy of Allens – is that a club? Do you get a sticker and a poster if you join? Can you be *Quilty* if you join? Bwah.

  3. Claire permalink
    February 1, 2010 7:39 pm

    I don’t have anything else to add to this post, but now there are an even 900 comments.

    • abu permalink
      February 2, 2010 12:43 am

      900 seems like a manufactured number. Let’s make it 901. That seems more ‘real’.

      • Lauren permalink
        February 2, 2010 12:45 am

        YOU RUINED IT!!!!

        • Sherena permalink
          February 2, 2010 12:50 am

          I’m changing it to 903 because that’s better. It’s all multiples of 3! Because 0 is 3(0). 🙂

      • abu permalink
        February 2, 2010 3:32 am

        I like that. Let’s leave it at 903 then. Oh, wait …

  4. marylao90 permalink
    January 30, 2010 7:35 pm

    AHAHA i loved it!! glamtards ahahah
    you made my saturday night!
    love from an italian KA fan!

    • Lauren permalink
      January 31, 2010 1:45 am

      RUN! MARYLAO90, RUN!
      I loooove your avatar but Top Idol might not 😛

      • marylao90 permalink
        February 19, 2010 3:22 pm

        Ahahah omg I’ve tried to change it so many times but wordpress is being an ass!

        • Lauren permalink
          February 19, 2010 4:42 pm

          Pahahaha well my avatar is a ship and she hasn’t banned me so you may be safe! WordPress is stupid about avatars. Takes so long to change them.

          • marylao90 permalink
            February 20, 2010 11:24 am

            hope so i love her! XD
            i think I’m gonna try harder 😀

            • Lauren permalink
              February 20, 2010 2:45 pm

              Nice. Now that is a TI approved avatar xDDDD

  5. JaeJae permalink
    January 30, 2010 12:51 pm

    Hiya All! Thank you for the welcome! Even though Leigh Kat starts off her/his post with the utterly unnecessary ” Honey, your sparkle cow prints are showing” I promise you I am not a cow nor do I sparkle! LOL!

    But most of you get me and what I am saying and I appreciate that. I am not knocking Kris. I have bought songs off his album and during his idol run and I was thrilled to see that he is going to Haiti (I am going myself hopefully this summer). I think his going there is utterly in character. And I do know nice Kris fans. We all started off in a forum for another idol then got sucked into season 8 and diverged after that. But I have lurked at some Kris fan sites and on MJs during Idol last season and I honestly do think that the only reason you don’t see the amoount of craziness from the Kris camp is a matter of percentages. 2 % of 100 vs 2% of 200 sort of thing. That 2% either way is still crazy. I just don’t like when people feel that a few crazy fans means they can disparage the artist in really awful ways. I don’t have a problem with anyone saying they don’t like someones style, sound, dress, crazy shades, what ever, but the amount of vitriole I see expressed toward Adam always seems extreme. And everyone wants to lump his fans together; assume that the 2% is the 100%. We all know that is not true. Just like Kris’s 2% or Cook’s 2% aren’t the majority of the people who are buying there music and going to their concerts.

    But this is a cool site. I was worried about visiting here because I thought it might be like another anti Idol site. But its not! Ok! Back to real life for me! Later gang!

    • 8sourcandy permalink
      January 30, 2010 1:12 pm

      Welcome. It is a cool site. 🙂

  6. Mylifeback permalink
    January 29, 2010 12:40 am

    But where did Skylar go tho? I’m concerned we didn’t give him a warm enough welcome. Do you think he’ll come back?

  7. January 28, 2010 11:03 pm

    Elliott Yamin and Kara Dioguardi are going to Africa for IGB.

    How dare they sensationalize the problems in Africa for their own publicity! Famewhores!

    • deez permalink
      January 29, 2010 12:44 am

      Does that mean they aren’t going to Haiti, I wonder? Do they usually go to multiple locations? I really can’t remember.

      • January 29, 2010 1:51 am

        I’m not sure but I guess they probably can.

        • jukejoint permalink
          January 29, 2010 2:05 am

          You can think less of me for knowing this if you want to, but the last time I remember there being an IGB, Season 7, I think Paula and Randy went somewhere close by California, Simon went elsewhere in the US, some of the stars like Brad Pitt went to New Orleans, and Elliott, Fantasia and Daughtry went to different places in Africa. Or maybe Elliott and Fantasia were a different season. But I think it was Season 7 when Elliott cried because somebody named her baby after him?

  8. nerdgirl permalink
    January 28, 2010 10:36 pm

    Adam sold less albums than Taylor Hicks.

    According to Wikipedia: “The album debuted at the number two spot on the U.S. Billboard 200 chart, selling 298,000 copies in its first week”.

    Adam Lambert’s FYE #3, 198,000 copies first week…

    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 10:40 pm

      How did Taylor sell those albums?! When someone like Taylor Hicks sells better than people like Adam Lambert and Kris Allen, you know there is an issue. Could it have something to do with the economy?

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 11:32 pm

        I’m actually surprised people buy music as much as they do. It’s just WAY too easy to find it for free. I would guess it decreases every year. As for Taylor Hicks, he was really popular right after the show…later not so much. It’s probably more telling to compare their sales at the end of the year.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 28, 2010 11:36 pm

          CD-buying behavior was also different then. Downloads weren’t the most important thing.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 11:39 pm

            Hmmm I guess that must be the reason. I still don’t think it’s right for someone like Taylor to have superior sales to people like Kradam. Don’t people have any taste in music?

        • pattyluponey permalink
          January 28, 2010 11:38 pm

          I have a lot of friends asking me to burn them copies of Kris’s and Allison’s albums…to which I’m a terrible friend and tell them to shell out the 10 bucks…if we want them to make more albums, shouldn’t we pay for them? (and I’m not advicating buying 10 copies each, just 1 if you like the artist…)

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 11:46 pm

            That’s what I told my mom’s friend! I did that more out of spite though because she thought his AMA performance was inappropriate. lol

          • on the edge permalink
            January 28, 2010 11:55 pm

            Partly because I’m too damn ethical for my own good, partly because I’m paranoid, I just can’t steal music. Plus I know what sales mean to these artists…I just hope labels are looking at the bigger picture. Is there any way to track what’s illegally downloaded? Then they could see, “well, he IS popular! No one wants to pay for his music, BUT he’s popular…”

            • Smartie permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:56 am

              Torrent sites actually list download stats.

    • 8sourcandy permalink
      January 30, 2010 1:21 pm

      The numbers are down across the board. Partly because of the economy, like Lauren stated, and partly because copying a friend’s download has become easier.

  9. Hope F. LeSane permalink
    January 28, 2010 10:25 pm

    “Adam Lambert coming to Fantasy Springs”

    I think Clay might have played there a few years back. Can you imagine a room full of Claymates and Glamberts.

    Would love to be a fly on the wall.

  10. Lauren permalink
    January 28, 2010 10:20 pm

    I expect an Adam birthday post TI. Just saying. 😉

  11. Trish permalink
    January 28, 2010 6:40 pm

    I never know where my comments will end up, but here’s a link to the article about Adam’s casino gig. Some real stellar reporting here, LOL:

    Adam Lambert coming to Fantasy Springs

    • Claire permalink
      January 28, 2010 6:47 pm

      Lost to David Cook? WTF? I read in my local newspaper’s TV guide that he lost to Kris Brown. Nice.

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 6:53 pm

        Poor Who. But C’mon you can’t expect people to be fact-checking…that just takes too long.

        • Claire permalink
          January 28, 2010 7:03 pm

          The funny thing was the blurb wasn’t even supposed to be about Adam or Kris. It was on a Q&A page where people send in random questions about all TV shows. Someone asked if Season 8 of AI would ever be available on DVD. The response mentioned that it’s difficult to get the rights to the songs, bla bla bla, and said Adam Lambert was the runner up to Kris Brown, complete with a picture of Adam.

          Maybe that person wanted to own S8 on DVD because she was a huge Anoop tard. Who knows.

      • 8sourcandy permalink
        January 30, 2010 1:23 pm

        That IS funny.

  12. deez permalink
    January 28, 2010 4:47 pm

    Is TI off doing another poker thingy? (Jus’ wonderin’…things are getting a little weird up in here again!)

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:56 pm

      I’m actually working from home today because I’m sick. And this morning I was concerned I may have to come over here and beat some people down…

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 5:00 pm

        *ducks and covers*

      • Lauren permalink
        January 28, 2010 5:06 pm

        I’M SORRY! I LOVE YOU! DON’T HURT ME! *Uses deez as human shield*

      • January 28, 2010 5:25 pm

        You give beatings here? Uh oh!

        • deez permalink
          January 28, 2010 5:28 pm

          It hurts her more than it hurts us. 🙂 It’s for our own good.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 5:31 pm

            That’s like saying it’s worse for the abuser because s/he has to deal with the emotional pain of his/her actions. Ridiculous. TI is obviously mistreating us and we need to mutiny!

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:35 pm

              Who am I abusing?

            • margie permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:35 pm

              huh…what happened? Lost like always heeheehee 🙂

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:56 pm

              “I’m actually working from home today because I’m sick. And this morning I was concerned I may have to come over here and beat some people down…”
              I kinda just took this and went off on a tangent 🙂

          • Burgundy LaRue permalink
            January 28, 2010 5:55 pm


            • deez permalink
              January 28, 2010 6:13 pm

              *sigh* She can’t take us anywhere.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 6:15 pm

              Hahaha! My new goal is to embarrass TI as much as possible. She has been appointed leader of the Whos.

  13. January 28, 2010 4:37 pm

    *look up

    Damn there’s no edit button

    • January 28, 2010 4:56 pm

      No sorry, this edit was supposed to be attached to my comment above but I failed again. User error!

  14. Mimi permalink
    January 28, 2010 4:17 pm

    Pulled this from Twitter:

    Derakhshand: RT Fans see if you can move WWFM on iTunes to top 10 by tomorrow as a BDay present to Adam Lambert! I bought dozens of WWFM this morning.


    • deez permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:26 pm

      But…but…but…according to Skylar, just buying the single means you don’t like the album! She should’ve bought dozens of copies of the ALBUM!

      • January 28, 2010 4:30 pm

        Derakhshand, please turn in your Sparklecard. You have outed yourself as not liking Adam’s voice by buying his single instead of his album. Bad, bad, bad.

    • January 28, 2010 4:29 pm

      Where do these people get all this money to buy dozens of copies of singles, albums, whatever? Do they starve their children? Even if I wanted to -which I don’t – I couldn’t afford it.

      • Pandora permalink
        January 28, 2010 4:42 pm

        Aren’t most of them in their 50s or so, probably never married and no kids to support. Their other main expenses are probably food, glitter, and eyeliner.

        • Lauren permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:49 pm

          I always assumed they WERE married with kids. I believe in a post a while back there was a quote of what they considered to be their typical day. It was all housewife stuff plus stalking Adam via internet. This it what they said about themselves thinking it was a GOOD thing. It’s hard to be a housewife with no family to support you. Stupid old-fashioned Glamberts :/

          • deez permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:52 pm

            LoL! I rember that! Wasn’t it like : “*throws pop-tart at kid* …back to AO.”

        • deez permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:50 pm

          Don’t forget…some of them have 3 sons, one gay, one straight, one bi.

          (God that sounds ridiculous…was that real? Cuz it sounds like something we made up, lol)

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:54 pm

            No it’s something some Glambert made up about her excuse for gifting.

          • TopIdol permalink
            January 28, 2010 5:03 pm

            Isn’t there some Bonus Jonas or something. Some munchkin who hangs out with the Cyrus Prostitot.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:14 pm

              Yeah Adam said something about him once when told he should be the fourth Jonas. Frankie right?

          • Trish permalink
            January 28, 2010 6:31 pm

            Don’t forget…some of them have 3 sons, one gay, one straight, one bi.

            That sounds like a description of the Jonas Brothers. Is Mama Jonas a Glambert?

            Yeah Adam said something about him once when told he should be the fourth Jonas. Frankie right?

            Knew it!!!

            Did y’all hear that Adam has a casino gig in the Palm Springs area the same day (2/27?) as David Cook performs at another casino 40 minutes away? What will the Glamberts do? Didn’t they all diss Cook’s performing at casinos on New Year’s? I expect we see epic fanwars over who has the nicer casino to perfrm in and who’s tix cost more.

            • deez permalink
              January 28, 2010 6:43 pm

              Oh no! Get the popcorn ready!!!!

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 28, 2010 6:56 pm

              Now this is a showdown I could love. Glamberts vs Cooktards in a Casino rumble.

            • January 28, 2010 7:11 pm

              Haha, what’s next, a supper club? 😉

    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:36 pm

      Yeah um my bday gift to Adam is donating on his Unicef page for Haiti. I am sure he would appreciate that more than me obsessively wasting money on multiple copies of his album. What do you do with the extra copies? Do they throw them out?

      • margie permalink
        January 28, 2010 4:53 pm

        They send them to orphans, the troops, homeless shelters, etc 😉

        • Lauren permalink
          January 28, 2010 5:05 pm

          As talented as Adam is, that is a terrible gift. I think the homeless would rather have food before Adam’s CD.

      • on the edge permalink
        January 28, 2010 5:17 pm

        Lauren, I think that is a wonderful gesture. I confess I did something similar and donated to the Race For Hope/Accelerate Brain Cancer Cure on Cook’s birthday.

        • Lauren permalink
          January 28, 2010 5:20 pm

          I don’t deserve too much credit. I got the idea from ontd_ai 🙂
          I think that is just wonderful. Perhaps we all should donate to our Idol’s cause on their birthday 🙂

    • saskin permalink
      January 28, 2010 5:42 pm

      I think I gotta rant; here it goes.

      I don’t know. I mean this is getting really ridiculous. I bet 19E is behind all this ‘let’s get Adam’s ……. to ….. on …..’ shit. They realized that he has a crazy online following and decided to exploit that.

      I really hope no one is buying into that crap. Can you imagine some people buying multiple copies of TFM, FYE, i-tunes album (cause they can’t wait until the next day), the physical copies of the album, FYE video, WWFM, WWFM video and after all that being asked to buy even more copies of that crappy WWFM because it is his “birthday” and ‘Who’ is outselling him in single sales. I hope NO ONE ever did that. That is certifiable crazy. If you know someone who did that, get them help.

      Do other idol fans organize this kind of mass buying sprees for their idol?

      And guess what? The production company would know who is buying their product. That is their job. I’ll make it simple: you can get a second mortgage and spend it all on your idol, you can sell your car and buy gazillion singles of your idol but your idol is not going to get richer soon. You are paying 19E, then the songwriters, then the MV’s then every other expense of the production, then the tour expenses, then the band and then maybe (just maybe) your idol will get some money. So good luck.

      • jukejoint permalink
        January 28, 2010 5:49 pm

        Yep. If you want to help your Idol out financially, you’re better off sending them a hundred bucks than spending a hundred bucks on cds. The first way, they get a hundred bucks. The second way, they get about ten bucks, and they get it wayyyy down the road, after all the accounting has been done and everybody else has their share first.

      • margie permalink
        January 28, 2010 5:54 pm

        This is the first year I actually really followed an idol contestant. I did my part I bought the album and single on i-tunes. That’s it…and I felt like a loser doing that…lol 🙂 It’s kind of embarrassing around my age group to like an Idol. I don’t know why but it is.

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 6:08 pm

        They don’t care about making Adam richer…they just want to prove he should’ve won. (Where the $$ goes is beside the point.)

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 28, 2010 6:50 pm

        There are huge mistakes being made across the board as to who is doing what, and when. Bare with me…

        19E is the company that produces the television show American Idol. They have nothing to do with the Idols post show. In fact, I’m pretty sure that legally they can’t have anything to do with them. 19E could give two shits how any Idol does post season as long as the viewers come back next year. They care about advertising revenue for their “Deathstar.” Cowell is very much 19E. He doesn’t care who does well post show. He does, however, love to be right.

        19M is the music management wing of 19I, the umbrella company that owns all, that manages many of the Idols who get major label deals after the show ends. They have nothing to do with the show, and only show up once BMG decides they want to sign someone. 19M books talent gigs (like the red carpet thing), and helps shape the image and pr face of the Idol. They do not book music gigs…usually. Idols don’t have to sign with 19M, but somehow the ones who didn’t didn’t get the attention they thought they would. It seems to be a blessing and curse to go with them as a management company.

        BMG is the record label with a deal with 19 who agrees to sign the winner, and then gets first shot at any other contestants in whom they might be interested. They can deal with anyone they want. They can ask Simons Cowell and Fuller who they think will sell, and sign accordingly, or tell them to fuck off and sign someone else. The only one who is guaranteed a deal is the winner, and BMG has many imprints they can sign them to depending on how they want to market them.

        Once the Idol is signed to a BMG imprint label (This year it’s Jive (Kris and Allison) and RCA (Adam)), then the label goes about helping the Idol make a record, and then market that record. They handle the music gigs, and music related pr (Talk show appearances where they perform, AMAs, SNL, etc). They coordinate with 19M so that they get the best for their money, and both market the artist to his or her strengths.

        The record label puts out money ahead of time hoping to make money as the album and merchandise sells. They book a tour, make t shirts, and handle promotions for the album that they shelled money out for.

        The management company works for the Idol. They work on commission. They book someone to be a tv correspondent for ET, and they get a commission of that. They get the artist magazine interviews, and sponsorship deals. If they help the record label make a talk show booking they get a commission from that. From the label, not the talk show….well, the talk shows give kick backs, but that’s another story.

        None of any of this has to do with 19E. The show ceases to be involved beyond the handshake deal they have with their parent company (19I) to allow the Idol to come perform their new hit song on the show.

        Both of them will tour. Artists make more money touring than anything else. As in, the artist. The label gets a bigger cut of album sales, while the artist gets the bigger cut of the tour. Still, this is the real way the label makes back their money. Do not worry about whether or not your guy will tour. The only question is when and how.

        Beyond that, it’s all about whether or not the label believe in the artist enough to let them make a second album.

        It’s a pet peave of mine when I see people say 19E is doing something they have nothing to do with, or saying 19M is doing enough music bookings for Adam, or Jive needs to get Kris out there more.

        • margie permalink
          January 28, 2010 7:01 pm

          Thank you. I did not know all that.

        • saskin permalink
          January 28, 2010 7:05 pm

          Sorry. Then I meant RCA I guess? Non?

          The question is who will profit from encouraging people to buy multiple copies of a CD, single, MV etc?

          Interestingly, when people started talking about this “birthday” thing all of a sudden an ‘behind the scenes ‘ youtube video of WWFM shoot appeared.

          • margie permalink
            January 28, 2010 7:12 pm

            LOL no comment. Always something pops up new huh? Need to go buy milk & bread to get ready for the ice storm tonight 🙂

            • deez permalink
              January 28, 2010 8:17 pm

              I KNOW!!! Stupid weather! LOL, this is somewhat OT, but I was just watching CNN, and they were talking about that pair of wackos in Fl with the missing little girl. Supposedly, the parents have split up. A reporter stated that the girl had just gotten the guy’s name tattooed on her back, so obviously that wasn’t true. Then the host said (no lie) “Yeah, what kind of weirdo would get a guy’s name tattooed on their back if they WEREN”T sleeping with him?”

              (LOL!!! Obvious the show’s host is unaware of Glamberts)

          • erinnthered permalink
            January 28, 2010 8:01 pm

            While I did kinda single you out, I didn’t mean to put you on the spot, saskin. Sorry. Lots of people do, and will continue to, make these mistakes.

            It’s actually good stuff to know. Especially for tards of certain Idols. Like, notice how almost all of Adam’s gigs lately have been pr gigs (19M) and not music or radio promotion gigs (RCA)? The casino gig is RCA, and most of the label promotions are behind the scenes and under the table, but it says something. Clearly 19M believes in Adam. I can’t say if that says something negative about RCA at this point, but it is interesting.

            Anyway, the labels actually don’t want people buying multiple copies. Well, to a certain degree they don’t care because they get the money, but it screws up their sales predictions, and their ability to see what’s being effective in terms of marketing. It’s annoying to them, as far as I can tell. I’ve never seen a label or management company actively encourage that behavior. I have seen them throw their hands in the air because there’s just nothing they can do about it.

            I think the behind the scenes video was a coincidence. Adam’s about to have another big web promotion come up (his AOL Sessions), and they want people to have him on their mind, and on their Google search. The label isn’t going to pay much attention to the Sparkle Herd unless they are getting in the way. They want sales and publicity outside the bubble.

            • saskin permalink
              January 28, 2010 10:09 pm

              No problem. I don’t know the first thing about music business or AI. But this really got on my nerves. If you have the album why would you go and buy another copy of a song on the album just because it is his birthday? How does that make any sense?

              Can you explain why the label wouldn’t want to sell multiple copies to the same customers? Especially if they are not planning to produce the music of that artist anymore?

              • TopIdol permalink
                January 28, 2010 10:18 pm

                I don’t get it, either. It’s not like say, if you like a pair of sneakers and you buy them in five colors, either. You don’t need more than one copy such things.

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 28, 2010 11:41 pm

              saskin, they don’t. Well…like I said, they don’t care, but they do. They make money regardless, and they’re a company, so they like making money. Also, the recording industry is pretty greedy.

              The truth is, most entertainers and their companies have no idea what their fans are doing. That’s usually a good thing. The pr companies and managers should keep track, because it’s their job to keep them, but the record labels have nothing to do with fandom, and don’t care.

              The only time they care is when something the fans do directly effects them. In this case, Adam’s fans are getting in the way of their promotional activity with radio stations, and getting in the way of their ability to gauge which promotions are working and which aren’t. So they care, but only so much as it effects them.

              Am I making sense?

              Really, it’s all business to them, and people who don’t know their place, or act appropriate to their place, are a bad thing.

            • Trish permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:39 pm

              Great explanations, erin. Thanks for all of that.

        • Starr permalink
          January 29, 2010 11:40 am

          Thanks for that info, erin. Interesting stuff!

      • Smartie permalink
        January 29, 2010 12:52 am

        Do other idol fans organize this kind of mass buying sprees for their idol?

        Yes. All do. Dating back to Clay and sending CDs to the long suffering troops.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 29, 2010 11:35 am

          Because Clay Aiken and Taylor Hicks CDs do so much to improve troop morale.

  15. deez permalink
    January 28, 2010 2:52 pm

    I never said Kris was never discussed

    O RLY?

    we do not have threads dedicated to Kris bashing in fact Kris is not a topic of conversation.

    • jukejoint permalink
      January 28, 2010 3:12 pm

      Psst, deez… Nobody ever accused the folks from Planet Fierce of being consistent. Or logical. Or having even a modicum of sense. The rules on their planet work differently, and consistency, logic and sense don’t work there. Spelling and wit also appear to have been outlawed there.

  16. Skylar permalink
    January 28, 2010 1:57 pm

    All typical Kritter mantra. In today’s day and age it is easy to sample the cd via youtube, itunes, and more.

    In closing, before I bid all you fine fine people a fond adieu, I will say, I hope you are correct and that Kris’s cd sales pick up when 2-3 -5 singles are released. In all sincerity I really do not want Kris to take the title of the worst selling Idol winner of all time away from Taylor Hicks.

    • isidra permalink
      January 28, 2010 2:07 pm

      And not everyone is obsessed enough that after hearing one good song on the radio, would then hunt down previews of every other thing said performer’s ever done. I mean, we do (theoretically) have lives.

      But I’m sure we all appreciate your well-wishes nonetheless. 🙂

    • deez permalink
      January 28, 2010 2:12 pm

      Awwww….no need to be disingenuous just for us,… sure you hope that’s what happens, it’s why you’re here.

      Or I’ll use Glambert vernacular: Know resson two bee lieing 4 us u no u hop Chriss Allon doze’nt outsale Taler Hix , its y your hear.

      • Jas permalink
        January 29, 2010 12:31 am

        I like that you spelled it Chriss instead of Chris.

    • Nich permalink
      January 28, 2010 2:14 pm

      In all sincerity I really do not want Kris to take the title of the worst selling Idol winner of all time away from Taylor Hicks.
      Yes, yes we all thank you for your concern.

    • tmac permalink
      January 28, 2010 2:27 pm

      Nice try thinking you get whip Kris fans (wtf is a Kritter anyways?) into a frenzy over low cd sales. I, for one, am not worried about sales at all. I am actually glad he is being treated and looked at as a new artist who has to build a fan base. He is letting his music speak for itself, and LLWD is doing tremendously by him. He is gaining fans every day who are outside the AI bubble. I honestly think Kris could care less about exploding onto the pop scene. He wants to write and perform music that is respected and has longevity. He is well on his way to doing that.

      On the other hand, Adam has had the benefit of hype (overhype IMO) and publicity stunts (AMA shitfest….and when I say that, honestly the only thing I found offensive about it was his horrid singing) to boost his cd sales. Couple this with the concerted effort of his bsc fans to inflate sales by buying multiple copies, and yes, Adams sales are where I’d expect them to be. Big deal. Revel in that all you want. I honestly get second hand embarassment when I see how quickly Adam’s songs/videos get to the top of any chart. It is all rather calculated and sordid. I much prefer a slower, legitimate rise with lots of new fans. So take your fake pity for Kris and shove it up your ass.

      • on the edge permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:31 pm

        Oh, I think (and I’ve never been to PF so I may be talking out of my ass) they, being the Glamberts, call us “Kritters” as a term of belittlement, like we’re just a bunch of meaningless critters that scurry about…like roaches or mice that can easily be squished.

        I’ve been to a bunch of Kris fan sites (where they call themselves…um…”Kris fans”) and have NEVER heard that term.

        • isidra permalink
          January 28, 2010 2:36 pm

          Well, not everyone can carry off classy monikers such as “Glambert” or “Lambskank.”

      • isidra permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:32 pm

        “Kritter” is kind of catchy actually. I might adopt that. It’s much cuter than “Glambert” at any rate. 🙂

        • Nich permalink
          January 28, 2010 2:34 pm

          It kinda is.

          • on the edge permalink
            January 28, 2010 2:35 pm

            Oh, God, please don’t call me a Kritter, PLEASE. I don’t need a nickname. “Kris fan” is nice, neat and simple. Two little syllables!

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 28, 2010 2:37 pm

              It’s the first time I’ve heard “Kritter”, too.

            • January 28, 2010 2:45 pm

              Krispie? 😉

              I am laughing about PF sending their glittery emissary to set the Kritters straight. Lol.

    • January 28, 2010 2:31 pm

      What the hell is a “Kritter?”

      • Nich permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:32 pm

        I’m thinking the Kris fan version of Glambert/Sparklecow??

        • jukejoint permalink
          January 28, 2010 3:07 pm

          Kris fans could be Krispie Kritters! (Comes in all shapes and sizes.)

          It’s really quite hilarious to me that part of the internet bonding and solidifying of the bond comes with these goofy names. I mean, seriously. Who in their right mind would call themselves a Lambskank? (No offense meant to anybody who really likes that name. I just find it… Icky. Icky beyond belief.)

          Sure, people who followed the Grateful Dead from city to city in their tie-dye shirts started calling themselves deadheads, and that made sense at the time. Because they were wearing tie-dye and following the Dead from city to city. It wasn’t just a fandom, it was a lifestyle.

          Then we moved to Parrotheads (for Jimmy Buffett) and Dittoheads (for Rush Limbaugh), and lord knows all the soap opera people love making up mash names for their couples and forming groups around those names or for their faves. Then they can trot out their LIASON and JASAM shirts to Super Soap Weekend to try to get the people in charge to write for their faves, or writing a flood of letters to the people in charge screaming that they never, ever want to see “Jiz.” (And example of creating a derogatory nickname and feeling that, in doing so, you are somehow affecting policy or swaying opinions.)

          I do get that people get off on creating an identity and a feeling of belonging from this kind of labeling or rooting or hating. But it still seems weird to me that there are grandmas out there proclaiming to the world that they are proud Claymates or Archies or Cookies or Glamberts or… Do people like Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift or John Mayer have Gaggles or Swiftettes or Wieners running around out there? If you don’t have your own “army” or “nation” are you somehow disadvantaged in the world of pop music?

          • on the edge permalink
            January 28, 2010 3:15 pm

            Actually Gaga herself calls them “her Little Monsters” so there’s that. But that’s HER naming them…totally different.

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:59 pm

              For some ridiculous reason, I find that endearing. Lady Gaga. I don’t want to like her, but I think I might. And I’m almost okay with it. But I do think her calling her fans her little monsters is cute for whatever reason.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:09 pm

              Yes Gaga ftw! Maybe because little monster is a lot more adorable than lambskank?

        • saskin permalink
          January 28, 2010 3:08 pm


          (*although I cannot understand why any one would be ‘an idol fan’ in the first place I kinda respected that Allen fans didn’t used to have have ridiculous names for themselves. But obviously things have changed so there is that… )

          What is PF?

          • deez permalink
            January 28, 2010 3:18 pm

            Planet Fierce, the Elba where the banned exiles from MJ’s scattered to. Where Lawler/chef Kerry Kolsch (author of the soon-to-be-released Chick-fil-a/AT&T voting expose’) is a regular!!1!!!!11111!!

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 29, 2010 3:04 am

              Careful, the Glamberts might mistake your historical reference for some sort of coded homophobia. Them’s not the most edumacated folk.

          • on the edge permalink
            January 28, 2010 3:19 pm

            “Planet Fierce,” the home planet of the Sparklecows. Just be glad they don’t want to beam us up and give us anal probes.

            • Starr permalink
              January 30, 2010 12:28 am

              Thanks, on the edge. Now I’m going to be sleeping with one eye open.

      • Trish permalink
        January 28, 2010 3:14 pm

        It should really be “Chritter,” shouldn’t it?

        • jukejoint permalink
          January 28, 2010 3:21 pm

          Perhaps “The kid who won Idol”ters.

          • Burgundy LaRue permalink
            January 28, 2010 3:34 pm

            I’ve got no real problem with nicknames, but pick something that makes some sense or is at least semi-adorable. The Cookies, The Archies, The CareBears, The Sparklers. Cheesy, but not altogether bad. But Lambskanks, Glamberts? Hell to the no!

          • deez permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:11 pm

            OOOOH….. hwc must’ve gotten outvoted, you KNOW he suggested that one! LOL.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:22 pm

              Hey, I am calling you guys the “who’s”. It has been decided 😉

            • deez permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:28 pm

              Lol. I am honored . (can I be Roger?)

            • on the edge permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:33 pm

              Can I be a “Who Dat” instead?

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:37 pm

              Yes to both. lol

            • Pandora permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:51 pm

              If Kris fans are the Whos, does that mean we hang out in Whoville? Who gets to be Cindy Lou Who?

        • auntieaimee permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:50 pm

          I love Lauren’s idea of calling Kris fans the “Who?”s. 😀

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:55 pm

            TI is Cindy Lou!
            And yes, auntieaimee, I usually believe in modesty but this was a stroke of genius.

            • margie permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:19 pm

              The Who’s. That is so cute Lauren. We can have our own little Whoville. Share the love peeps 🙂

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:22 pm

              Lol, I think there is some indecision about whether you are a rock band or characters from the Grinch. Work it out guys. Perhaps both? xD

            • deez permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:26 pm

              This is why we don’t have a name…. we go off on tangents, and then become too lazy to arrive at a decision.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:30 pm

              Hahahahaha! Well I am still calling you Who’s regardless of what it means to each of you.

            • Pandora permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:35 pm

              It’s not that we’re too lazy to make a decision, it’s that none of us want to be part of a herd.

              • TopIdol permalink
                January 28, 2010 5:41 pm

                No one is making a fan base name on this blog. Unless we’re mocking someone. Plus, I can’t have it looking like I’m the HQ for one of these freaky cult groups. 🙂 Heh heh heh.

                • margie permalink
                  January 28, 2010 5:42 pm

         with me

                • saskin permalink
                  January 28, 2010 5:47 pm

                  Shoot. I was trying to come up with a cute name for the fan group of that cute girl with nice legs, bleached teeth and a divorced mom. No. Not the one with the brother. The one with the cheating dad.Yep. That one. From Chicago.

                  • TopIdol permalink
                    January 28, 2010 5:48 pm

                    Can’t we just call all their fans Latch Key Kids?

                    • saskin permalink
                      January 28, 2010 5:55 pm

                      You are something else you know. Brilliant. Latchkeykids it is. Later affectionately; latchies.

                  • jukejoint permalink
                    January 28, 2010 5:50 pm


                    • saskin permalink
                      January 28, 2010 6:04 pm

                      Bleachers wouldn’t work ’cause I noticed this week that every single contestant that goes to Hollywood has bleached teeth. And I don’t mean couple of whitestrips bleached. I mean if you look directly at their smile for longer then 3 seconds you’ll go blind bleached. I’m not going to say it is a conspiracy but… makes you think.

                    • TopIdol permalink
                      January 28, 2010 6:14 pm

                      And everyone who doesn’t make it…their teeth are so yellow! Its a total conspiracy!

                    • saskin permalink
                      January 28, 2010 6:16 pm

                      I know? What are the chances????

                • Lauren permalink
                  January 28, 2010 5:58 pm

                  But “Who’s” is too perfect for the Kristards! Even if I can’t use it on your blog, I am so going to spread it everywhere else!

                • deez permalink
                  January 28, 2010 6:10 pm

                  Crap. I wanted to dress up like Roger Daltrey.

          • deez permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:59 pm

            We can all be Roger. Keith and John are dead, and Pete’s like a depressed pedophile or something. Kris needs to do a “Baba O’ Riley/Heartless” mashup.

            • Pandora permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:12 pm

              If he did anything with Baba O’Riley he’d be accused of trying to copy Cook. Behind Blue Eyes? Way too Kradam-y.

              I’ve got it, he should mashup Won’t Get Fooled Again with Heartless.

            • auntieaimee permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:21 pm

              How about “Who Are You”?

          • stanless permalink
            January 28, 2010 9:14 pm

            or Who-ters . heh.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 10:13 pm

              Haha I like that. Except TI says we aren’t allowed to make fan names 😛

              • TopIdol permalink
                January 28, 2010 10:17 pm

                We can make ridiculous ones.

            • Smartie permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:50 am

              Tardemorts – tards of someone who must not be named?

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 29, 2010 3:07 am

              Tardemorts, FTW! Genius!! 🙂

    • Burgundy LaRue permalink
      January 28, 2010 2:51 pm

      Skylar: No one downloads a song nearly 700K times if no one likes it. SOMEONE likes what Kris is offering.

      But for now, LLWD is the only song Kris has out there, so people are buying that until they can figure out if his album is worthwhile. The same thing happened with Lady Gaga. I think The Fame only sold 24K in its first week. But she kept plugging and promoting and releasing singles. Now the album is closing in on 2.5 million copies sold. Consistency and persistence wins the race. “Alright With Me” is starting to pick up downloads from being used in Kris’ Ford commercial. IMO, things are starting to gel.

      If you had said Kris needs to better connect the dots between LLWD = his having an album out, I would have appreciated your argument more. Because while I like Kris, I would love to see more of a tie-in with that. But instead, you came in here with a condescending attitude, yet somehow expect the red carpet treatment. GMAFB.

      The one positive I can say regarding Adam’s attempts to put out a hit song is that he had three songs out (TfM, FYE, and WWFM) at the same time. It gave people a better perspective of what he has to offer. But considering that the FYE album hasn’t burned up the charts, maybe it didn’t help so much at all.

      If Kris’s album sales are disappointing when no hype surrounded him, then I can only imagine the heartbreak you feel regarding Adam’s slow rise when everyone and their grandma was kissing his behind. Shouldn’t he have gone double-platnium by now and giving Susan Boyle a run for her money?

      Every singer takes a different path success. Let Adam and Kris do their own thing. If you didn’t have your right monster clab claw wedged between your four eyes, you might enjoy yourself around here. We don’t bite. . .too hard.

      • Pandora permalink
        January 28, 2010 3:43 pm

        I don’t know, those Glamberts download things a hell of a lot of times. And who knows if they actually like them? But “ADAM NEEDS US” so they follow each other to itunes and download another 5 or 6 copies of the song, and go to Walmart and buy another 10 copies of the CD to put under their pillows so they will dream about him.

        • margie permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:51 pm

          They are having a download campaign for WWFM for Adam’s bday. I want their money. I need to pay off a credit card.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:56 pm

            Damn! Why can’t they just do a DonorsChoose or Haiti drive like ontd_ai? That actually is helpful and NOT a waste of money.

            • Nich permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:01 pm

              Ah but that would make sense.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:11 pm

              Haha! I mean maybe if they NEED to promote Adam they can try to spread the word about how excellent his album is instead of just wasting their money? Oh no, that would be not quite bsc enough.

    • erinnthered permalink
      January 29, 2010 12:59 am

      I like Kritter. That’s a cute name. Kinda like that 80s movie series with Scott Grimes? Cute and deadly.

  17. Skylar permalink
    January 28, 2010 1:35 pm

    Nope we thought and rightfully so Sligh’s attack would somehow be blamed on Adam fans and you tried so I am glad one of us saved Twats.

    I never said Kris was never discussed I just said we do not have threads dedicated to his bashing. And we don’t.

    Ok Claire than please explain to witless me, why LLWD is selling well but the Kris Allen CD is not. I would truly like your explanation of that one.

    • January 28, 2010 1:42 pm

      So you know for SURE that none of those people like Adam? You tweeted them all and asked? I bet if I had the energy (which I do not) I could find lots of pro-Kris tweets… lots of anti-Adam tweets… it’s pretty flimsy evidence about… anything.

      “why LLWD is selling well but the Kris Allen CD is not.”

      I’m not Claire but it is NOT unusual for people to wait until they hear a 2nd or 3rd single before buying a CD. I’m one of those people, I hate buying a CD and not liking anything but one song, so usually I wait to hear a 2nd or 3rd song I like. If he can come up with another hit single (yes, I said hit single – it is), I’m betting those album sales will go up. Saying that it is obvious that people don’t like his voice because they only buy his single makes NO sense. If they didn’t like his voice, they wouldn’t buy his single either.

    • isidra permalink
      January 28, 2010 1:43 pm

      I’m not Claire, but I’ll give it a stab:

      Because sane people like hearing more than one song before committing to buying an album, as opposed to buying in bulk because they’re spiritually obsessed with a particular performer?

      • January 28, 2010 1:43 pm

        OK, I like your answer WAY better than mine. I’m jellus.

    • Claire permalink
      January 28, 2010 1:45 pm

      How the fuck would I know? If I had to guess, I’d say people (not necessarily those obsessed with Idol) heard the single on the radio, liked it, but didn’t bother buying the album because they’re only familiar with the one track.

      All I said was I can’t imagine anyone who truly doesn’t like “NAL’s” voice would even bother buying the single.

    • on the edge permalink
      January 28, 2010 1:48 pm

      Because the majority of younger fans in their teens, 20’s, and I’ll throw in early 30’s…you know, the audience a burgeoning pop star REALLY wants, marketing and sales-wise…prefer downloading singles to purchasing albums. Any demographic study on music sales will tell you that.

      • Nich permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:00 pm

        The idea that only Kris suffers from people only buying the singles and not the whole album boggles my mind. It’s not like it doesn’t happen to say just about every singer. Hell I love Lady Gaga’s music but I’ve only been buying a single here and there before finally a few weeks ago breaking down and actually buying The Fame Monster.

        • on the edge permalink
          January 28, 2010 2:23 pm

          That’s what I was saying…Jordin Sparks and Rihanna are other examples of artists making it on the basis of single sales. Ever since I got my iTunes account that’s how I approach it. Hell I didn’t buy ADAM’S whole album, but I did buy some tracks I like.

          • margie permalink
            January 28, 2010 4:48 pm

            Hell I am in my mid 20’s and 95% of my ipod is singles. I rarely ever buy an entire album. Sorry maybe I am cheap or whatever but I am not buying an album just to spike the artist’s sales.

            • Nich permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:59 pm

              I rarely buy full albums anymore. I either buy them because once I buy two or more singles I feel like I might as well get the whole album b/c obviously I like the music or it’s an established artist who I’ve listened to for a long time and it becomes an automatic must buy like say Franz Ferdinand.

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:02 pm

              Music downloads have killed the concept album. This has been a big complaint of many music journalists for some time. Artists aren’t even making albums the way they once were.

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:57 am

              TI, that stopped long before iTunes. In this case, I think iTunes was answering a marketing issue instead of creating one.

              Concept albums are alive and well, they’ll just probably never top the Billboard charts again.

    • Trish permalink
      January 28, 2010 3:11 pm

      OMG, is this thread STILL going?

      Skylar, your paranoia is poignant, but you might want get yourself some Zyprexa or something. People can think Chris Sligh is a bit of a douche without blaming Adam. Of course, that doesn’t keep those same people from laughing their asses of that Idol’s First Genu-INE Rock Gawd (TM) is best known these days as a red carpet sashaying B-list celebrity who’s now being lampooned even on Idol:

    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:14 pm

      One word Skylar: itunes

    • Starr permalink
      January 29, 2010 2:52 am

      “Live Like We’re Dying” is selling well because it’s the currently promoted single. It happens to be well-played among most radio stations around the country and Kris has been playing the song in the various gigs he has been doing to promote his album. As an avid music buyer, I tend to buy albums by default. But my brother is the complete opposite. If he hears a song he likes, he buys the song only. No need to buy an entire album if you only hear one song. Besides, not everyone can shell out the cash to buy albums these days. If they hear more than one song from the album and they like it, they buy the whole album. It’s really quite simple.

      Tell me, Skylar. Why, in your efforts to insist to us that you really don’t spend that much time thinking about Kris, do you wonder about these things like why his album isn’t selling? Does that keep you up at night? Kris is doing fine. His single is doing excellently on radio; it sold the most units last week out of any Idol download. He just sang the Star-Spangled Banner at one of the biggest football games in the country. And he’s off to promote himself worldwide, starting with the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore.

      So thanks, Skylar, but I think Kris Allen will be fine without your pretend disinterest in him.

  18. deez permalink
    January 28, 2010 1:30 pm

    Now here is some BSC for you (this is up there with Tide Football, LOL):

    Thursday, January 28, 2010
    “American Idol” leads to stabbing, cocoa scalding, Fla. cops say
    A St. Pete woman is accused of stabbing her sleeping boyfriend with a 10-inch butcher knife after they’d gotten into a fight about something on “American Idol,” police say. He was also badly burned by hot chocolate that she poured on him, they say.

    • on the edge permalink
      January 28, 2010 1:38 pm

      I really think that us Southerners will just look for any excuse to stab someone. Football, Idol, baby mamas, whatev.

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:02 pm

        Here’s my favorite quote from VFTW on the incident:

        “Do you think she will be pissed about missing the episode tonight?”


    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:12 pm

      Holy crap. That is scary.

  19. Skylar permalink
    January 28, 2010 12:43 pm

    DEEZ you take your own advise. And don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

    • deez permalink
      January 28, 2010 1:01 pm

      If I were at PF, you would have no need to issue that invitation.

      Oh, I’m glad you don’t think about Kris. You sure were quick to accidentally find all those Glambert twatters. I’m sure they magically materialized in your lap since you didn’t go looking for them or anything; since Kris is not, you know, something you guys ever even think about.

      • on the edge permalink
        January 28, 2010 2:27 pm

        LOL! Did you ever see the Steve Martin movie “Roxanne?” They’re fighting on the porch and Daryl Hannah says “get out!” And Martin says “I’m already out! You go IN!”

        • deez permalink
          January 28, 2010 3:11 pm

          LOL! Geeze…morons these days….

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 29, 2010 12:50 am

          I love Roxanne. I must have seen that movie hundreds of times as a kid. I think I actually starting caring about physics because of that random conversation between Roxanne and Charlie. My cousins and I would sit around and watch the bar scene and make fun of the director and writer’s inability to count to 20. I think that’s how I became interested in making movies. I never thought about that until now…

          Oh yeah…No, you GET IN!!

    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:08 pm

      Deez was here first 😛

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 4:19 pm

        Ugh. Methinks she doth protest too much. I can understand getting upset at the stupid Adam-bashing comments of a couple of posters…but her nose was out of joint over something else. Maybe the subject matter of TI’s post was a little too close to home.

        (At least we know it wasn’t pooporange, lol…I figure she’s fled to PF by now)

        • Lauren permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:33 pm

          Yes, I mean I support Adam when people say ridiculous things but Skylar just came here to say Kris shouldn’t have won.
          Pooporange will never go anywhere in our vicinity again 😀 “MJ help me!”

          • Mylifeback permalink
            January 29, 2010 12:08 am

            LOL Lauren, where has pooporange been lately?

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:18 am

              What is Pooporange?

            • deez permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:26 am

              The idiot from MJ’s who refused to spell Kris’ name right in all her stupid passive-aggressive comments. “Some people” decided to taunt her at MJ’s and almost banned. 🙂

            • Lauren permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:26 am

              I don’t know!

            • Lauren permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:27 am

              That was to Mylifeback

            • deez permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:28 am

              “GOT banned” *sigh*

              We didn’t act right while you gone.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:28 am

              “Some people”? Let me just say Deez, these were some pretty awesome people 😉

            • deez permalink
              January 29, 2010 12:30 am

              **@#@%(&&%$* !!!!!! That should say “were gone” (honestly, I’m not drinking)

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 29, 2010 12:51 am

          poporange really does have some sort of learning disability and some sort of mental illness. I agree that she’s abusing it to be passive aggressive and childish, but she really isn’t all there.

          • deez permalink
            January 29, 2010 1:36 am

            Are you sure? You don’t think all that was an act? It’s just weird that her spelling skills seemed to come and go at will. And the “Help me, MJ! I’ve never felt so much hate!” Because we misspelled her name? Talk about some thin skin. IDK…it came across as playing a part, to me anyway.

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 29, 2010 3:00 am

              I got confirmation. She is definitely not faking.

              Like I said, she’s abusing it, and shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it. One of the big mistakes people make with people with learning disorders and those kinds of illnesses is that they let them get away with bad behavior thinking they don’t know better. They can learn, you just have to be willing to teach them.

              poporange needs tough love, but not from people who are going to gang up on her like that.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 29, 2010 7:34 am

              Thanks for he guilt trip Erinn 😦

            • deez permalink
              January 29, 2010 9:41 am

              Well, @ Mj’s it is pretty hard to tell. Several of them seem to have problems. Honestly, she didn’t seem that different to me….just WAY more annoying. I haven’t seen her back, so maybe MJ told her to cut it out as well? We got the public permaban threat, but we can still post over there. She has just disappeared. I still don’t see that misspelling her name in response to her own misspellings could be construed as “hate”…but whatev, if she has issues then she sees it differently. She will get a wide berth from me if she comes back. Hope she gets the help she needs.

  20. deez permalink
    January 28, 2010 12:40 pm

    “We at PF ”

    That right there is all you needed to say. Fuck off back to PF, and don’t forget about the 2 o’clock milking.

  21. Skylar permalink
    January 28, 2010 12:34 pm

    ET, haha yeah and you Cook fans run to every Adam polls or what every to attack and vote against him. Why? Ya fearful that Cookie is being over shadowed? Damn real.

    Some Twitter Comments following Kris SSB (NOTICE MOSTLY NOT ADAM FANS) We at PF were watching the Kris bashing knowing it would get blamed on Adam fans. Go bash Sligh he started the mess.

    It is evident most peeps just do not like Kris’s voice. If they did they would buy his cd and not just his single. In no way is this Adam’s fans fault.

    latarian Nothing in the last year has changed my opinion that Kris Allen should be singing with a guitar case open on a subway platform
    caughtmelover Kris Allen sucked. Can’t sing. embarrassing big time.
    so_scottsdale OMG !!! KRIS ALLEN !! i get so embarassed for singers who don’t sing well .. live. *gasp*
    maxchaiken Anybody else think Kris Allen was pitchy in the national anthem in this football game?
    abyrev @MissTink11690 and you would be correct about Kris Allen! didn’t really know who he was but he sounded awful!
    RIOTgirlRIOT just watched kris allen’s performance at the football game. how did he win american idol? I agree with the guys who booed him at the beginn…
    blackcatnfl Rosanne vs. Kris Allen, I’d have to go Rosanne.
    blackcatnfl Kris Allen, you truly suck. Try something else besides singing.
    PK9 @scarter19 @ShaunNorthup Until that Anthem, I had forgotten that it was “sh***y Kris Allen” that won Idol.8 for Team Kennedy, not Lambert.
    MuffinBreath111 Kris allen + national anthem = dumb
    coleifornia @BetsyMills You know I’m just giving you a hard time. There’s no one in the world who finds Kris Allen more underwhelming than me.
    freckleface2 @vojha ugh…Kris Allen sux
    Tom400C This hockey song during commercial breaks is giving me a headache. Kris Allen howling and raping the national anthem didn’t help either 😦
    bonkitgirl Kris Allen sucked singing the National Anthem, just as I suspected.
    HaRLemWoRld24 it coulda been kris allen tht ruined it for me with tht terrible national anthem
    omg__stfu Btw kris allen sounded like #shit
    caughtmelover Kris Allen can’t sing anything requiring a range. I was embarrassed by his attempt to sing the anthem. He just cant hit those high notes.
    ddubsbabygirl seems to me that Kris Allen might have messed up some of the words on the National Anthem….
    ThugRockStar Kris Allen just proved “American Idol” is rigged. As you were.
    MisterAMitchell Everybody is throwin all kinda shade at Kris Allen. He must really be that bad LMFAO
    @weezermonkey: Kris Allen’s rendition of the national anthem was completely flat
    christyholly Kris allen just butchered the star-spangled banner
    kbar17 Kris Allen should not sing the Anthem. He shouldn’t even sing Happy Birthday! Hope the game is better than the Star Shameful Stammer.
    tomdar2 American Idol was represented when Jodin Sparks sang before the AFC game. She’s a better singer than Kris Allen.
    soundz714 Ummmm Kris Allen BUTCHERED the national anthem! (via @humble_one)
    cmalone @thekdeluca Kris Allen FToff-keyFail
    youngq104 @askjillian am I tha only 1 who noticed Kris Allen messed up on tha national anthem?
    FifiBella9 When the Saints play the Vikes, the only loser is Kris Allen.
    raisden All the talent in New Orleans & Fox chooses Kris (who dat) Allen to slaughter the National Anthem. He’s from Arkansas to boot!
    PrideOfLR Who the fugg voted for this Kris Allen character on American Idol?!?! If u did, #killyoself
    behappy365 Wow. Kris Allen was his usual boring self.I hate boring singers
    lilly64 In the spirit of Favre’s butt-slapping interview, I’d rather see Adam Lambert perform the nat’l anthem over Kris Allen. (via @cwebbie)
    RussellTrombone the SPCA is going to be hearing a lot of complaints from dog owners after that Kris Allen nat’l anthem.
    virtuousgem Yea he was terrible! RT @MsLoveLiLi Kris Allen you suck! Land of the Fray? Lol

    • January 28, 2010 12:48 pm

      Um, Skylar?

      “ET, haha yeah and you Cook fans run to every Adam polls or what every to attack and vote against him. Why? Ya fearful that Cookie is being over shadowed? Damn real.”

      I don’t vote in jack shit. I don’t give a shit about Adam, and I don’t worry about Cookie is being overshadowed. Know why? Because I’m a sane grownup who realizes that it is just not that important. I’m a Cook fan because I like Cook. I’m not jealous of anyone else, I don’t spam polls, I don’t CARE.

      And having been on PF, I can say quite confidently that you are FULL OF SHIT that Kris is never a topic of conversation, though you are right in one respect, “Kris” isn’t because you don’t use his name, you have little code words for him.

      Damn, you are one angry elf. And realllly reinforcing exactly what this thread was all about 🙂

      • deez permalink
        January 28, 2010 1:03 pm

        OLFIP. Oh that’s not Kris…that’s some other short guy in plaid who won AI.

        • Claire permalink
          January 28, 2010 1:11 pm

          NAL = Not Adam Lambert on AdamWithoutPity. If you can’t bring yourself to type out his name, then why the hell are you even talking about him in the first place? This is in Adam threads, not Kris or General Season 8 ones. I can’t imagine a Kris thread being titled “For Our Entertainment” and “Glam Bam Thank You Man.”

      • Claire permalink
        January 28, 2010 1:04 pm

        “It is evident most peeps just do not like Kris’s voice. If they did they would buy his cd and not just his single. In no way is this Adam’s fans fault.”

        Why would you buy either if you didn’t like his voice? Who listens to the radio, hears a song/ singer that they consider to be mediocre, and then makes a point to only download the single since it’s so terrible? And who blamed Adam’s fans for Kris’s sales?

        • deez permalink
          January 28, 2010 1:15 pm

          Psssst, Claire, don’t try to interject logic into a conversation with a PF’er.

          In fact, it’s really unfair to engage them in a battle of wits. They are, after all, unarmed.

          • on the edge permalink
            January 28, 2010 2:40 pm

            I’m wondering if she was sent as the official herd spokesperson, or if she strayed on her own volition…

            • on the edge permalink
              January 28, 2010 2:57 pm

              Damn. Meant to say spokesCOW. Hit “Submit” too soon.

              I CAN HAZ EDIT BUTEN PLZ?

    • Lauren permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:07 pm

      Skylar, no offense, but picking and choosing the quotes that best support your opinion is not considered proof. I went to that site you linked and I didn’t see anything bad at all. The comments YOU posted are more malicious than anything I saw on that fan site. Oh and btw I’m an Adam fan so don’t just call me a sorry winner or whatever.

    • January 28, 2010 4:25 pm

      I’m amazed that someone who could care less what Kris is doing spent that much time to look all of this info about how much he is “hated” on Twitter. Hell I am a fan of Kris and I don’t spend nearly as much time obsessing over him as some of you all do!

    • January 28, 2010 4:52 pm

      They don’t talk about Kris at PF? LOL forever at that and at someone making a big effort to find, copy and paste effort all those twitter comments from Sunday.

    • Mylifeback permalink
      January 28, 2010 5:16 pm

      Cool story Skylar.

    • Starr permalink
      January 29, 2010 2:44 am

      So…this is how you show that you don’t give two shits about someone like Kris? Heck, even I wouldn’t bother to copy and paste comments THAT long, and I’m a fan! It’s cute that you’re trying to point the finger at Kris fans, but really, all you’re doing is embarrassing yourself.

  22. Skylar permalink
    January 28, 2010 12:04 pm

    OH PLEASE Sure Glamberts go to far but so do many a Kritter (KRIS FAN) They like you are the sorriest bunch of winners in the history of Idol. All ya do is whine and moan and wine some more.

    Just visit a rabid Kirs site that spends as much if not more time bashing Adam and bellyaching about what Adam is doing that supporting Kris. The latest is saying Adam has gone gold. Oh my but Adam is 27,000 CD short. PPPLease let’s put it this way Adam will be gold in a week or two. Kris well ne may never go gold at the pace he is selling. Beside Certifications are on shipped not sold so Adam IS GOLD>

    So TOP IDOL be fair and point out it goes both ways.

    • January 28, 2010 12:26 pm

      I don’t know, Skylar, maybe I just hang out in the wrong places but from what I’ve seen Adam has the craziest fans EVER, and this comes from a Cook fan who has seen lots of crazies in that fanbase too. Interesting that you call them the sorriest bunch of winners, at least they aren’t conspiracy theorists yelling HOMOPHOBE! (homephobe?) every time something doesn’t go swimmingly. If Kris’ are the sorriest bunch of winners the Adam fans take the cake for the sorriest bunch of losers.

      What is PPPlease, anyway? Like… Roger Rabbit? (I’m sorry, “Hide me, Eddie! Ppplease!” came to mind, lol).

    • deez permalink
      January 28, 2010 12:31 pm

      MMMM….ok, I’m not sure why your knickers are in a twist over their “Adam” thread. Here are 2 quotes I copied (SO FREAKIN’ VICIOUS!!!)

      “Adam has sold around 440k albums of For Your Entertainment, I’m too lazy to look for the exact figure. Maybe RCA has shipped 700K albums? I’m not entirely sure what that number represents, to be honest. Maybe if you include Take One, the season 8 compilation album and Adam’s S8 Greatest Hits or whatever that was called?”

      “Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:43 pm
      Posts: 474
      Location: Mexico Anyway Adam album is almost (or already) GOLD so congrats to him…”

      The rest of it is a conversation about whether or not it is actually “Gold”… BFD!!!!! LOL! You cannot be seriously comparing that: to the Crazy Glambert shit .

      Yes…Kris fans discussing sales terminology on a KA fansite in a thread entitled “the Fierceness of Adam Lambert” is EXACTLY the same thing as Glamberts invading every blog or article on the web to bash Kris for wanting to go to Haiti and/or coming up with conspiracy theories about a chicken restaurant.

      F A I L .

      • Skylar permalink
        January 28, 2010 12:38 pm

        Oh Deez go back further and into their Grassy Knoll. Sorry but on PF we do not have threads dedicated to Kris bashing in fact Kris is not a topic of conversation. Why because we really do not care one way or the other about pocket.

        • deez permalink
          January 28, 2010 12:42 pm

          BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kris is not a topic of conversation at PF?????????????LOLOLOLOLOLOL where did we get all those quotes from a couple weeks ago then? Try lying to someone who doesn’t know better.

        • Starr permalink
          January 29, 2010 2:42 am

          Uh, but you care enough to go trolling on You care enough to type up a lengthy post on why you think Kris fans are the “sorriest bunch”? Spare me your indignation. Oh, you sad, sad soul.

    • erinnthered permalink
      January 29, 2010 12:43 am

      You know those numbers get taken back eventually, right? All those CDs you gift that get returned, and the CDs that don’t sell get removed from the total.

      Besides, if Adam really was a RAWK GOD he’d be selling faster than David Cook, right?

      He’s just another pop artist trying to make his way, and he’ll never change the world or do anything meaningful in the music industry.

      And PF doesn’t Kris bash?! Oh, honey!

    • Starr permalink
      January 29, 2010 2:40 am

      Skylar: Adam’s record hasn’t gone gold, and he IS short a few CDs. Until he has been certified gold, you can’t just go around babbling about it. You’d only look like a fool when someone goes on the internet to find out whether this is true and it turns out you’re getting a little ahead of yourself. Adam will hit gold eventually. I see no reason why the Glamberts are so eager to boast about something that will eventually come. Why not just wait until it is officially announced, AND THEN do your gloating? Doesn’t that make more sense? Oh, right. In the world of Glamberts, being hyperbolic and getting ahead of yourselves is completely natural. Why else were y’all so bitter when he lost on American Idol?

      I also don’t see how stating the facts is a jab at Adam from “the sorriest bunch” of Kris fans. The better question is: why do you troll Kris Allen fan sites? That’s weird. Shouldn’t you be spending more of your time on Adam Lambert fan sites? Dude, you should get out more.

  23. Mylifeback permalink
    January 27, 2010 11:49 pm

    TI, didn’t you know #AdamBringsChange?

    • deez permalink
      January 28, 2010 12:10 pm

      UH OH!!!!!!! Only 26 comments in this thread, and it’s already gone there:

      01/28/2010 at 9:21 am
      Kris continues to have a great week on the Pop charts. LLWD is now up to #19 after getting another +100 spin day.

      23 19 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3557 2980 577 21.023
      +105 Spins
      +74 Bullet
      +0.448 AI

      10 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2609 2483 126 13.218
      +36 Spins
      +28 Bullet
      -0.056 AI”

      01/28/2010 at 9:55 am
      yay, go Kris and go Little Engine!”

      “Kanadie Bonttell
      01/28/2010 at 10:02 am
      Billboard Top 200 Albums….

      Adam moves up to #21…highest ranking since second week of his album release.

      Kris falls to #101.

      On a side note…Adam’s FYE single moves up to #33 from #41 in the Dance Track Club charts. Talking about the little engine that possibly could.”

      Is this a record??????

      • January 28, 2010 12:28 pm

        Haha, I saw that. Everything has to be countered. It is tiring to watch, I wouldn’t have the energy to do it!

  24. S.P. Arklecow permalink
    January 27, 2010 3:57 pm


    • old bat permalink
      January 27, 2010 6:00 pm


    • Lauren permalink
      January 27, 2010 6:03 pm

      …that wouldn’t really be rape then, would it? 😉

      • deez permalink
        January 27, 2010 7:22 pm


      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 7:53 pm

        Why so rational, lauren? 😀

        • Lauren permalink
          January 27, 2010 7:57 pm

          xD I am JUST so tired of hearing people ask Adam to rape them. DO THEY KNOW WHAT RAPE IS?! LOL!

          • Starr permalink
            January 27, 2010 8:21 pm

            Yeah, it’s kind of disturbing. But then again, we’re talking about Glamberts here. I wouldn’t be surprised if a Glambert had “ADAM” tattooed all over her hooha.

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:24 pm

              I’m looking forward to the Glamberts’ take on tonight’s SOTU. Apparently, Obama is going to speak about reversing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Since EW interviewed Obama and McCain during the campaign and asked them about American Idol, to which Obama said he watched with Sasha & Malia, I know this announcement will be BECAUSE ADAM LAMBERT IS CHANGING THE PUBLIC’S HEARTS AND MINDS ABOUT GAYOSITY.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:46 pm

              He’s speaking about revising “Don’t Ask, don’t tell”? Would you blame if I didn’t believe him? Or he is finally delivering on that change?

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:53 pm

              He’s going to ASK Congress to change it. Doesn’t mean they will follow through on it. It will be interesting how they will respond to it though. What are they gonna do? Say, “No Obama, we don’t like gays in our military.” Hopefully because he will ask them to do this on the SOTU, they will be inclined to follow through on it.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 12:35 am

              Ok, I thought Obama’s SOTU address was fantastic. I hope he acts on his pretty words though. I feel like he is such a great speaker that he has tricked me into believing in him once again.

            • Sherena permalink
              January 28, 2010 12:42 am

              On Obama: MTE Lauren.

              Also Obama looks really good in suits. This, along with his pretty words, makes me predisposed to believe in him more.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 28, 2010 12:50 am

              I even told myself I wouldn’t get drawn in again. I guess it is inevitable. Please, just do what you said you would Obama, please!

          • erinnthered permalink
            January 28, 2010 5:00 am

            See, this is why I stay away from the hardcore sites. They say they want him to WHAT</em?!

    • Mylifeback permalink
      January 27, 2010 11:48 pm

      Oh hai there SP!

  25. Starr permalink
    January 27, 2010 3:01 pm

    OMG LOL Look at this hilarity:

    01/27/2010 at 1:21 pm

    01/27/2010 at 11:40 am
    What Haiti needs most right now is not a minor pop singer running among the ruins.

    He was not going to be running among the ruins. He was going to be sitting on a pile of rubble, performing an acoustic version of “Live Like We’re Dying” to raise the spirits of the suffering Haitians. The performance was to have been filmed and would have replaced the original LLWD video. Kris is determined that the song gets to #1, dammit, and he’ll do anything to further that goal.

    Clearly highhopes was being sarcastic. But then! THEN!

    01/27/2010 at 1:26 pm

    He was not going to be running among the ruins. He was going to be sitting on a pile of rubble, performing an acoustic version of “Live Like We’re Dying” to raise the spirits of the suffering Haitians. The performance was to have been filmed and would have replaced the original LLWD video. Kris is determined that the song gets to #1, dammit, and he’ll do anything to further that goal.

    now that’s a more well thougt plan: value exceeds cost ftw. I’m sure Haiti people would love ‘live like we r dying’. So appropriate.

    OH MY GOD. This BeckyMD chick…She needs an award.

    • Burgundy LaRue permalink
      January 27, 2010 3:05 pm

      Don’t look Becky straight in the eyes! She’ll pull you into her vortex of crazy with her piercing stare! Someone help me get Starr back on the good side! *Tugs at Starr’s arm*

      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 3:14 pm

        Adam is sexable…Adam is a golden god….Adam is a ROCK GOD…I can make Adam straight…Adam is the second coming of Jesus Christ…I want doughnuts…Huh? What?

        Ahem. You were saying?

    • deez permalink
      January 27, 2010 3:11 pm

      She moves to the top of the Glambert “Leader Board”.

      • jukejoint permalink
        January 27, 2010 4:05 pm

        Is that anything like the FBI’s Most Wanted List?

    • tmac permalink
      January 27, 2010 6:52 pm

      Is this BeckyMD for real? I mean, honestly, I can’t believe the extent to which she argues over this Haiti thing. She appears to know nothing about Kris’ past (or his character, for that matter) at all. I would love to point her to “Land of Smiles” on BNS. Seriously, I defy anyone to listen to that song (written after his mission trip to Thailand) and still consider Kris a fame monger intent on using his “minor pop singer” status for personal gain.

      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 7:54 pm

        Forcing a Glambert to listen to a Kris Allen song? Now that’s just cruel.

  26. Nekola permalink
    January 27, 2010 11:23 am


    I’m late to the party, but I just wanted to give you well deserve praise for being the voice of reason in all this nonsense. I’m so glad that I discovered your blog.

  27. January 27, 2010 11:12 am

    “Kris Allen went on American Idol to perform music. Adam Lambert went on it to be famous. ”

    I find this statement really funny (and Kris fans love to repeat this). They both went to a Reality TV show. People go on TV because they wanna be famous. If Kris didn’t want to become famous, just to perform music, he would stay in Arkansas. They both wanted to be famous. And there is nothing wrong with wanting to be famous, especially if you work with entertainment. That doesn’t make you a famewhore. If you are a singer and want to be successful, becoming famous is part of the package. There’s nothing wrog with that.

    As for Kris going to Haiti, I think is really brave of his part and he doesn’t deserve to be criticized for it. On the other hand, I think people have a right to their opinions, and don’t deserve to be called “crazy” if they think he’s doing it for PR. It’s just their opinion. Adam is called a famewhore all the time by Kris fans, and I don’t call them crazy kristards for thinking that. It’s just their opinion, it doen’t make it true.

    This is my first time on this board, and people here are really vicious. Didn’t like it. Oh well.

    • Mithra permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:00 pm


      You’re an Adam fan and you think people HERE are vicious? REALLY? :eyeroll:

      You’re also wrong about performers and artists and trying to be famous. Some want to be able to get into a position where their work is known and they can live off it because they get better paying gigs and offers. That is much different than wanting to be “famous”, which IS Adam’s clear goal.

      • 8sourcandy permalink
        January 28, 2010 1:00 am

        No, not HIS career goal. Your opinion of what his career goal is. There is a difference. 🙂

    • tmac permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:00 pm

      Do you really believe that Kris went on AI to become famous? Hell, it wasn’t even his idea to tryout out…it was his brother’s. He spent several years trying to earn a living as a musician/singer in Little Rock and he wasn’t able to do so. (Remember, he was headed back to finish his degree and get a real job so he could support his family. AI was a last ditch effort to make something out of his music.) He was and is totally in this for his music. He has said repeatedly that the best part of winning Idol is getting to make a record and make a living doing something he loves. Do you see him trying to use his fame to walk every red carpet or hobnob with celebrities? I don’t. I saw him work his ass off in December playing every radio show he could….sometimes playing to a handful of people. And, it looked like he loved every minute of it. You know why? Because it was all about the MUSIC. Yeah, you’re right….what a fame whore.

      Also, yeah, if your opinion is that Kris is using Haiti for PR reasons, you DO deserve to be called crazy. Stop being butthurt over the “viciousness” of this topic. For a lot of fed up Kris fans, this is the only haven we have to vent about the stupidity of Adam’s legions of sparkle cows.

      • spinningfasterandfastertonowhere permalink
        January 27, 2010 4:48 pm

        Kris was not even my fav, but he is what Idol was supposed to be about, not a vehicle for someone who was already working in the profession.

        Adam admits he was working as a professional 8 days a week, with costumes, sets, props, musical scores and professional musicians. Adam already had ties to the record business and worked with a former member of the Pussy Cat Dolls, and was a good friend of his. I believe Adam was a plant from the get.

        Kris says at the beginning he only went to the auditions for the ride to accompany his brother who wanted to try out. I have never seen him act once like a “famewhore”.

        Meanwhile let me remind the Glamberts one of Adam’s songs that he wrote and sang clearly show he is a straight up FAMEWHORE and wanted fame from the beginning, even before he appeared on the show.

        [b]POP GOES THE CAMERA a song about Adam’s desires to be a FAME WHORE.

        Pop Goes The Camera Lyrics

        [1 verse]
        I got drive so I’ll survive
        in Hollywood where I will

        I’ll arrive,
        I’ll take a drive into the pool, into the hive.

        I won’t break
        I’m what it takes,
        I’ll make my mark like an earthquake.

        Raise the stakes
        I’m wide awake be in your sight, ’til your head aches.

        stars are just like us.

        all cause a big fuss.

        POP POP!
        Goes the camera.
        Fifteen minutes of fame.

        POP POP!
        Goes the camera.
        Fifteen minutes right now.

        Look at me, Look at me
        in a magazine.

        POP POP!
        Goes the camera.
        Fifteen minutes of fame.

        [2 verse]

        Cross promotion
        Cross the ocean
        I’ll make bank off of their devotion.

        Drink the potions
        Cause commotions
        Got them feeling strong emotions.

        I’ll inspire,
        They’ll admire,
        Won’t turn on me ’cause i got fire.

        Fame expires,
        I’ll retire but I’ll hold on down to the wire.

        [Repeat chorus]


        I’ve been told each flash
        steals your soul.

        Every celebrity knows fame
        takes it’s toll.

        Even in his OWN LYRICS to his song Pop Goes the Camera he says he is going USE Sparkle Cows, and their “devotion”, he wants the fame, the magazines, and Sparkle Cows are idiots, AND in Adam’s own words he wanted to be a FAME WHORE.[/b]

        • spinningfasterandfastertonowhere permalink
          January 27, 2010 4:55 pm

          …so for Adam it was NEVER about the music.

          It was about being famous, and the proof is from his own song that he wrote/performed right before he appeared on Idol.

          To quote Adam”look at me, look at me”

          You Cow WHERE PLAYED. ..for his own desires for fame.

          • Burgundy LaRue permalink
            January 27, 2010 5:04 pm

            Yeah, at one point Adam was pretty honest about using Idol to finally make it to the ‘big time.’ And I’m okay with that. Everyone that tries out for the show does so with the intent of advancing their career. Adam was just on a bigger playing field than the rest. But still, it does speak of his thirst for fame by any means. I’m cool with that, but let’s not pretend that it isn’t part of Adam’s MO. The man is a moth to the light, vying for our attention. Just be honest about is all I ask.

        • old bat permalink
          January 27, 2010 5:15 pm

          Oh please. Let’s not bring song lyrics into this. Don’t validate the crazy tinhatters who believe Kris’s album is a cry for Adam to save him from his crumbling relationship with his wife. I have no idea what their relationships are like, any of them, and I don’t care. Songs are songs. Some of them tell true stories. Some of them are just stories.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 27, 2010 5:59 pm

            But haven’t you heard “The Truth” and “Can’t Stay Away”?

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 6:03 pm

              Lauren: “The Truth” was written by Pat Monahan and Toby Gad (of Train). Kris didn’t provide the lyrics for that song.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 6:08 pm

              I am joking, Starr. Anyway he still agreed to sing it and thus it must mean something to him.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 27, 2010 6:00 pm

          Those are some of the most terrible song lyrics I’ve ever seen.

          And I can’t look at any song with the word pop in the title and not instantly think:

          • Starr permalink
            January 27, 2010 6:07 pm

            Hahaha Music and Lyrics for the win!

          • jukejoint permalink
            January 28, 2010 5:33 pm

            I LOVE THAT VIDEO!!!! You just can watch it enough.

            • jukejoint permalink
              January 28, 2010 5:40 pm

              And why aren’t people like Scott Porter going on AI? Because he’s hot, he’s talented, he was young enough until two years ago, he can totally sing (Altar Boyz off-Broadway) and… They never would’ve let him through to the producers, would they?

      • Sherena permalink
        January 27, 2010 11:41 pm

        Of course he went on AI to become famous. That’s what Idol is about. No shame in that. Fame has various perks, including the opportunity to make a major label backed album.

        • blacklisted permalink
          January 28, 2010 12:01 am

          Exactly. There is nothing wrong with wanting to obtain fame. In fact, seeking celebrity is as American as apple pie.

          I only despise talentless famewhores. Adam is a talented fame-seeker. 😉

    • Randi permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:18 pm

      Is it only vicious to you because it’s not an Adam lovefest? There are numerous amounts of people that don’t like Adam Lambert and see him becoming the next Paris Hilton because he’ll do anything and show up anywhere just to get his face seen. That doesn’t mean he’s popular. That means his PR team is trying to keep him relevant since he screwed himself over big time on the AMA’s, then crying homophobia afterwards.

      He talks out both sides of his mouth. One minute he doesn’t want it all to be about “gay” and then the next breath he starts in on people being homophobic. If he didn’t make it all about being gay, then maybe he wouldn’t be looked upon that way. But being gay is what Adam thrives on because then he can continue to cry “double-standard” crap.

      Adam Lambert is his own worst enemy and his fans are lunatics. One minute he encourages them and then the next he chastises them for being supportive. Which way does he want it? I guess it depends on what suits HIM at the time. He also has been very derogatory towards anyone that is more of a celebrity than he will ever hope to be. He can’t take any criticism without whining like a 13-year old girl. Really, the guy should look in the mirror and see what’s staring back at him. He’ll have a perfect view of a poser and hypocrite.

      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 3:12 pm

        It really annoys me how Adam decides he’s only gay when it’s convenient for him.

    • Starr permalink
      January 27, 2010 3:24 pm

      I don’t understand, TC. In order to be called a fame whore, don’t you need to live up to certain criteria? For instance, the Kardashians are fame whores. They really are famous for being famous. They are on every Red Carpet, they do scandalous things in front of the cameras, are always on the cover of magazines, and yet always for the reasons. What has Adam done to deserve being called a fame whore? Think hard. Think REALLY hard.

      It’s not like this label of “fame whore” came out of nowhere, you know. On the other hand, what has Kris done to deserve being called a fame whore for going to Haiti? IN FACT, there are several things that would easily put these claims to rest. Not only has he already been doing volunteer work and been involved in humanitarian efforts BEFORE Idol (this means SANS the cameras, press, exposure, etc), but his personality is also such that he doesn’t really care about being seen. Why do you think he ditched a TV Guide (or was it Us Weekly?) red carpet appearance in favor of going to a Mat Kearney concert? Why do you think he opted to go to a John Mayer concert as opposed to having a big album release party filled with press and cameras on Nov 17? That is not opinion, that is fact.

      Sure, how people interpret something is up to them, but when they do so without acknowledging information that is clearly presented to them, they are not only expressing an opinion, but they are also choosing to be misinformed just for the sake of expressing that opinion. I disagree with that.

    • Kathy permalink
      January 27, 2010 4:52 pm

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out as they say.

    • Sherena permalink
      January 27, 2010 11:54 pm

      I agree with you on the Idol thing. Kris went on Idol to get exposure and fame, as does everyone who goes on Idol. That’s the POINT of Idol and there’s no shame in it whatsoever, as you said. Musicians need exposure and a certain level of fame to get people to listen to their music.

      However, I think that while people have the right to say that Kris is doing the Haiti thing for publicity– people accusing celebrities of doing charitable acts for exposure alone is hardly a new phenomenon– some have taken it too far. I said before (on MJs, I think) that this whole debate is just silly, especially the false either/or choice being presented: Kris is either a desperate famewhore who doesn’t actually care about Haiti, or he is an angel of charity who is completely unaware that Haiti is good publicity. I’ve seen this same false dichotomy applied to Adam as well: he’s doing the PSA either ALL for attention or ALL for unalloyed, pure charity. Whereas in reality it’s most likely a combination of both, as with most celebrities who do charity (and most things in life involving people, we’re complicated animals!). I’m inclined to think that for Kris, the genuine charity part significantly outweighs the PR part, though, but that’s my opinion.

      On the viciousness thing: I don’t think this place is vicious, but I can see why you’d feel that way (especially after some of the responses to your comment, lol). Just remember it’s the internet and a little of bit of snark or even anger can’t really hurt you.

    • emily permalink
      January 27, 2010 11:57 pm

      This is my first time on this board, and people here are really vicious.

      LOL. I’m sure MJs and twitter must be your benchmark of politeness.

  28. Holly permalink
    January 27, 2010 7:28 am

    Adam Lambert is a POSER. He attached his name to a charity because it would make him look good in the public eye. He hasn’t done crap for that charity since that time. Anyone can “attach” their name to anything, but actually doing something for it is another thing. Adam is a fameHO to the max. All he wants to do is keep his name out there and doesn’t care what he has to do in order to do that.

    After the AMA mess, the guy has a lot of work to do in order to be taken seriously. I don’t think it will ever happen because he is so UNoriginal, it’s almost funny. His fans claim that Kris (and others) are boring. Well I’d rather be considered boring than to be considered a joke. When Adam starts walking the walk and talking the talk, we’ll see what happens. But since that day will most likely never come, I don’t think we’ll have to worry about it.

    American Idol’s POSER 2009 is exactly what he’ll be remembered for. Oh, and of course his glitter and make-up. Again…. not original.

    • erinnthered permalink
      January 28, 2010 4:50 am

      Gonna disagree there.

      And sorry, Lauren, I hadn’t seen this post.

      Adam picked Donor’s Choose as an effort to try and get his fans to give to charity instead of him. It worked on a grand scale. He picked the charity – an awesome one, btw – and the whole thing was his idea. It wasn’t really publicized outside the core AI fanbase, so not sure how he was famewhoring there.

      You can still think Adam is a POSEUR musically, and understand that everything he does isn’t for the attention. He’s shallow, not sociopathic.

      • Lauren permalink
        January 28, 2010 7:12 am

        Thank you Erinn, this was one of the posts I was referring to. I was going to respond but I kinda was sick of conflict.

        • January 28, 2010 4:09 pm

          I don’t think we should automatically assume that the Adam hate is coming from those who are necessarily fans of Kris. There may be some of his fans who have commented here but from what I can tell, most the Adam hate being spewed is coming from people who just dislike Adam and are using this blog topic as an outlet to vent about him. I’m not saying that I agree with it or that it is right but I think that may be what is getting confused as *fanwarring*.

          MOST Kris fans are too lazy to even follow Kris’s career so I doubt they care about what Adam is or isn’t doing.

          • January 28, 2010 4:26 pm

            No, actually, most of the posts seem to be from people who can’t stand Adam’s BSC *fans*. I can’t stand them, and I downloaded four songs off his album, so I’m not exactly here to vent about how much I hate him. His nutball fans have driven me off blogs where I’ve hung out for well over a year with their craziness. It is good to have somewhere to vent about THEM!

      • January 28, 2010 4:51 pm

        I agree with that too! I was just saying that in response to some of the people who ARE spewing hatred about Adam on this blog

  29. Brenda permalink
    January 27, 2010 5:26 am

    The thing I didn’t like about Adam’s PSA for Haiti was that he used Time For Miracles blaring all through it to promote his album. THAT was blatant self promotion using a tragedy to sell albums.

  30. nicky permalink
    January 27, 2010 4:41 am

    Oh man I am so sick of anything Adam I could scream. I can’t stand him or his freakin nutcase fans. That pompadour hair merely further inflates his ego which is grander than his falsetto screams. I’m not a fan of Idol and don’t really know much about any of them but I have seen Adam a few times now (how can you miss him) and if he is the best they’ve got, OMG!

    I think he is more like a drag queen than a glamrocker but I guess those fans don’t know the difference. I am not in a good mood. I want his 15 minutes to be over so we can get back to some real talent. Did catch Kris’ performance and thought he was a pretty decent singer. Going to Haiti to help out in this disaster….definitely deserves applause. It’s not a safe place to travel and anyone going there deserves respect.

  31. Re Tard permalink
    January 27, 2010 3:01 am

    Well it looks that fame-whoring douche bag is at it again.

    Haiti update: not going to be able to go this week but sometime in march. Will keep you updated.

    I can’t wait to hear what the Gokeberts and Glamberts will have to say about this one!

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 27, 2010 3:02 am

      As soon as I saw that, I thought to myself…get ready for more Glambert nonsense!

      • Re Tard permalink
        January 27, 2010 3:27 am

        Glambert #1: Ahahaha, see not even Haiti wants him there!

        Glambert #2: Poor Chris Allen, TPTB just doesn’t like him. They should send Adam instead. It’ll boost CNN’s ratings.

        Glambert #3: I knew it! It was just for publicity! He’s not really going to Haiti, he just wanted you to THINK that so you’ll buy his album.

    • Claire permalink
      January 27, 2010 3:40 am

      I noticed he also tweeted about running into Jamie Foxx (namedropping famewhore!). I remember Foxx being really impressed with Kris when he was a guest mentor, but of course some Glambert had to say that he was just being polite and was talking out of his ass when he mentioned wanting to make an album with him. How else can you explain why he never did make the album with Jamie except for the fact that

      Foxx praised both Kris AND Adam the next day on Seacrest’s radio show and said they were the standouts of the group, but of course he didn’t mean any of it (except what he said about Adam).

      I read this comment some time after the season had ended, not right after that episode aired. Gee, what could’ve possibly happened in that time period that

      I remember a Glambert (yes it was a Glambert, not just someone who dislikes Kris)

      • Claire permalink
        January 27, 2010 3:43 am

        ^ No! I wasn’t done yet! Basically a Glambert said something stupid about Kris and Jamie Foxx.

    • January 27, 2010 12:42 pm

      How about this piece of wisdom from Tess’ post?

      “I just seriously hope that when Kris does go and volunteer that it is without camera crews and AI sponsorship. Some things in life are just better done in total anonymity.”

      Snort. Yeah, charities HATE when they get millions of dollars from AI. That sucks. Ruins them.

      Or “nehope”:

      “Good for Kris for showing common sense. Haiti does not need wanna-be pop stars running around and getting in the way. It’s bad enough that Sean Penn and others like him have insisted on going where they are not needed. Wonder if Mr. Penn brought his shotgun to this disaster?”

      • margie permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:25 pm

        Thank goodness I am banned there. I want to call out these stupid cows

      • Burgundy LaRue permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:39 pm

        There are some seriously deranged nuts over at MJ’s. Not to get all high and mighty, but it’s a dark place over there. Going over there is like having your soul questioned. Over a singing contest, of all things! It just feels so creepy.

        • January 27, 2010 1:47 pm

          Becky MD wins the prize:

          “Not long ago when I said RIGHT NOW is not a good time for Kris to go Haiti, several posters disagreed and said Kris had all it required to go. heh heh Maybe Haiti government doesn’t want media coverage as well? I’ll also go there to say Kris was being irresponsible and hadn’t learned much from his previous ’similar’ experiences if he really considered a trip to Haiti in a week. What Haiti needs most right now is not a minor pop singer running among the ruins.”

          Because, you know, that BORING Kris Allen would definitely go all crazy and hijack a plane and go over there uninvited to frolic amongst the ruins!


          I was so hopeful when MJ called out Tess and her BSC minions that they would live up to their threats of “erasing their bookmarks” and never going to MJs again. Instead they are back with a vengeance, allowed to spew their poison because they know you can’t call them on it or you get banned, and now I don’t even like going somewhere I’ve haunted since Season 7. Sigh. They make me hate Adam. And I know it isn’t fair (though I do think he’s a brat who has bought into his own hype), but these people are HORRIBLE.

          • Nich permalink
            January 27, 2010 1:53 pm

            Yeah Haiti wouldn’t want that media coverage. Thank god Anderson Cooper wasn’t down there with CNN cameras…

          • claire permalink
            January 27, 2010 2:01 pm

            I love this person’s response to the ‘doctor’s’ comment:

            “And BeckyMD, your stated intentions of not bringing him down might have rung more true if you could have resisted throwing in your dig about a “minor pop star” running around.”

            Yes, exactly! They can’t help but throw in those little digs when showing ‘genuine concern’ and they wonder why people don’t take them seriously.

            Do these people actually think they made Kris see the error of his ways, and that’s the reason why he’s postponing the trip until March? Hell, maybe it is for Idol Gives Back, and if so, I would assume he’s contractually obligated to participate in that and any other Idol-related events.

        • Ann permalink
          January 27, 2010 2:05 pm

          MJ and her “rules” allow any nutjob say whatever they want but calling them on it is not allowed. Hello?! This is not what’s called a discussion and it’s not fun. I think she is afraid that peeps will migrate to the nutjob sites and she won’t have too many users. Whatever!T his latest “Kris is going to Haiti” thing is the most ridiculous exchange. I just wanted to post over there: Shut the f**k up, who are you to be questioning Kris’ motives or anyone else for that matter. I guess worshipping Adam aka Perez Hilton in Training is not enough, they have to tear down other aritsts. Go Top Idol and VFTW too! Love and hugs!

          • Burgundy LaRue permalink
            January 27, 2010 2:41 pm

            Time for MJ to pull out a card from the David Cook deck and start wailing on some fanatics. And she better not tiptoe around it like Adam does with his cray-crays, either! :-\

            • Kathy permalink
              January 27, 2010 4:55 pm

              I agree. I only visit if I see something on twitter I care to read. this is my idol watching spot this year.

          • Pandora permalink
            January 27, 2010 3:25 pm

            I am so done with MJs. I follow her on twitter so that if there is something I actually want to read about I see the link, but otherwise I just. stay. away. I just can’t tell is she has become a glambert herself, or if she has let them overrun the blog because they post so often that it keeps her traffic up and thereby increases her ads.

            • enchanted permalink
              January 27, 2010 7:37 pm

              ITA. I used to think highly of MJ and her *awesome* journalism skills, but with all the BSC nonsense (and her clearly being a biased Glambert herself when it comes to managing her site and posting news), she’s definitely lost my respect.

              Thank goodness for Top Idol and VFTW for being the voices of reason amidst the sea of sparkle cows.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:44 pm

              Will someone please tell me when VFTW became the voice of reason? I despise that site and their bullying of even the most sane fans that dare to enter their abode. I find them to be unnecessarily hateful. Sorry 😦
              TI is doing it right though. While I don’t always agree with the comments, I rarely to never have a problem with her blogs.

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 9:01 pm

              I get sick of VFTW as well. Sometimes they just pile on Adam just because. I think that they do a good job of exposing the Glamberts for their cray-cray, but they diss Adam all the time for no good reason.

            • Sherena permalink
              January 27, 2010 11:35 pm

              IA on VFTW. It’s funny sometimes, but to laud it as a “voice of reason” while saying that MJ is biased just shows me that you are viewing things through an extremely selective lens. Because seriously, in what world is MJ more biased or less reasonable than VFTW? VFTW is entertaining for what it is, which isn’t an objective news source.

    • Starr permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:53 pm

      Actually they have already started. Some are going with the “I told you so” approach by saying that they were right all along for saying he shouldn’t go to Haiti. Others are pretending they were warning him against going to Haiti for security reasons instead of what they were REALLY saying a few days ago (that he did it for PR, he doesn’t have the expertise, etc). Others are saying he was being “irresponsible” that he wanted to go Haiti this week anyway.

      Oh, what fun!

      • deez permalink
        January 27, 2010 4:16 pm

        BeckyMD is bringing up this point now: Why did Kris not do the telethon AND go to Haiti. They aren’t at the same time, you know…so obviously he could’ve done BOTH, they were a whole week apart. Now, the trip isn’t til March, so he missed out on an opportunity to help. *sigh*

        I guess she knows all of what goes on behind the scenes, and what his schedule is like. (Because, of course, between photo ops, all he does is experiment with Rogaine and organize his “plaid closet”.

        She (or perhaps another interchangeable Glambert) expressed the opinion that they appreciated it SO much more when celebs did charity w/o cameras or fanfare. (this was so stupid, I just….aaaaggghh!) If it’s done secretly behind the scenes, then she wouldn’t know about it, would she????? How the frak would she know that Kris (or anybody else) HASN’T been doing exactly that? What a NINCOWPOOP.

        • jukejoint permalink
          January 27, 2010 4:30 pm

          Not to mention the fact that “telethon” includes the “tele” part, which means CAMERAS. So if he’d done the telethon, they would’ve accused him of fame-ho-ism, but if he didn’t, then he doesn’t care enough. The head, it does spin with the hypocrisy.

          I have a feeling that the answer is that he knows people in disaster relief, but doesn’t know people in the telethon biz, so he could make a call and get himself attached to the former, but not the latter. Or the former may be IGB, which means the connection was made for him.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 27, 2010 5:58 pm

          So what was the DonorsChoose stuff Lambert was doing? I remember him making videos for it…and the last time I checked one took videos with a camera.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 27, 2010 6:06 pm

            Not you too TI! You can’t HONESTLY believe that Adam did that for the publicity. No one would have known to donate if he hadn’t made multiple videos about it.

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 27, 2010 6:08 pm

              I was actually just laughing at that MD idiot’s post about doing charity without cameras and being behind the scenes, sort of pointing out what a hypocrite she is.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 6:11 pm

              Oh sorry! I didn’t really bother to try to interpret what you were saying as I was already pissed off at some of the other commenters. My apologies. That makes a lot more sense now.

            • deez permalink
              January 27, 2010 7:10 pm

              There’s nothing wrong with publicizing good deeds, it just depends on how its done.(like you pointed out in previous post, TI) Where is the emphasis placed? A star can travel to Haiti (for example) and have the cameras follow as he/she narrates and points things out, relates needs, and pretty much shows others what’s happening and what needs to happen in the future. OR a star could put himself in front of the cameras…look at me holding babies, look at me making my best “concerned expression” (I this, I that)….it’s not hard to tell the difference.

              Adam may have “famewhorish tendencies” when it comes to furthering his career (but honestly, who cares…it kinda works for him), but as far as the Donors Choose thing, I didn’t get that vibe at all. He seemed quite sincere in his desire to help. I tend to believe that there is a kindhearted person under all the glam. I know a lot of people disagree. I’m just going by what his fellow contestants said about him, I think they got to know him pretty well.

              And honestly, ( LISTEN UP, GLAMBERTS) the negative attitude towards Adam is being generated in large part by the BSC fans. Homophobes and haters, etc…count for a very small percentage of the recent negativity, I think.

  32. erinnthered permalink
    January 27, 2010 2:05 am

    perhaps kris wouldn’t get slagged on for his desire to help in Haiti IF Kris’ fans (and general Adam haters) didn’t try turning kris’ good works against Adam by saying it proves what a shitbag Adam is because he can’t be bothered to actually GO to Haiti, instead “famewhoring” by doing the PSA for ET instead.

    Huh? I must have missed all that misdirection when we were all praising Adam for his work for Donor’s Choose.

    I love these random, baseless accusations. They’re a good laugh.

  33. Hope07 permalink
    January 27, 2010 1:23 am

    Top Idol, thank you for some sanity. Best post I’ve read in a long time.

  34. blacklisted permalink
    January 27, 2010 12:42 am

    OT but thought Kristards would be amused by the ‘famewhore’ and his family doing tricks during xmas.

    • deez permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:58 am

      LOL…my neck hurts now.

    • on the edge permalink
      January 27, 2010 1:32 am

      Took me a minute to figure out what they were doing…obviously some cheerleading lifts. At least now we know how Kris keeps those pecs and biceps in shape!

    • wino permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:47 am

      a famewhore indeed with his “look at me” tricks. has he no shame???

    • Starr permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:49 pm

      KRIS ALLEN! What do you think you’re doing? Doing stunts like that?! What if you fall and break your neck? Then what would I do with the “KRIS ALLEN” tattoo on my left ass cheek?!

  35. deez permalink
    January 27, 2010 12:25 am

    “shelby permalink
    perhaps kris wouldn’t get slagged on for his desire to help in Haiti IF Kris’ fans (and general Adam haters) didn’t try turning kris’ good works against Adam by saying it proves what a shitbag Adam is because he can’t be bothered to actually GO to Haiti, instead “famewhoring” by doing the PSA for ET instead. ”

    So, all the Glambert hate stems from a pre-emptive strike from Kris fans? Kris fans actually called Adam a shitbag for not going to Haiti and Glamberts are now defending his honor? That’s interesting b/c these Glambert comments started appearing out of nowhere very soon after Kris made the announcement…I saw no Kristards slamming him. IF that comment was made (and I’ve never seen anything like that here, at IDF, or MJ’s (the only 3 places I hang out) then it was probably in response to Glambert assholishness.

    • Lauren permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:28 am

      In Shelby’s defense, So Soupy did say something along those lines. Everyone but me kinda ignored them though.
      But Deez, you are right, I’ve only seen anything like that said once and it was in response to the Kris is just a famewhore drama.

    • LeighKat permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:30 am

      what a ton of bullshit. more Glambert propaganda- I think I am beginning to see the humour in all this again. Can’t be mad anymore when you realise your dealing with completely insane people.

    • Sherena permalink
      January 27, 2010 1:23 am

      If that’s true then Adam fans just need to get less sensitive.

      Randomly accusing Kris of being famewhorish isn’t going to stop people from saying that Adam is famewhorish, so what’s the point?

      I mean you’d think that after half a year in this fandom the skin would be a BIT thicker than that.

  36. JaeJae permalink
    January 26, 2010 11:55 pm

    I am an Adam fan but certainly not a “glambert”. I think he is phenomenally talented but certainly don’t think he is God’s gift to man, woman and the universe. I like Kris, think he has a lot of musicality but little originality. And seriously, not the best voice in the world. But he is a nice guy with some good songs and I think he can do well. I found this article really hilarious because I laugh at the same OTT fans that you are making fun of. It is wild seeing these 50 and 60 year old women stalking Adam and his band at concerts and appearances. That being said, what annoys me is that you knock Adam in these articles. Its like you refuse to acknowledge where he DOES shine just to stick it to the cray cray fans. And if you haven’t noticed, the Kris fans are every bit as bad. Its only since they are smaller fan base that they seem less annoying. I am only saying call a spade a spade and spread the ridicule and the kudos where they are deserved! Don’t become what you satirize. 🙂

    • deez permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:11 am

      Another SANE one. OMG, Quick! somebody grab her!

    • Lauren permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:22 am

      *ties JaeJae with rope*
      Stay, please?!

    • LeighKat permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:26 am

      Honey, your sparkle cow print is showing.

      “kris fans are every bit as bad” – this is pure fallacy, don’t fool yourself. While some Kris fans like to “squee” and they enjoy a good laugh or two at Adam’s expense (myself included on the latter),
      there is NOTHING that can even remotely compare to the insanity of these Adam Lambert fans.

      Also, I think you failed to understand the real point of the post. Where did TI bash Adam? SHE DIDN’T! I just think you said that to deliberatly stray from the point. The attempt to sound even handed and rational was rather transparent.

      Also, I am 100% sick of this argument that Kris’s fanbase is “small” and that’s why you don’t see the level of craziness. The Adam fanbase is really NOT this mammoth that people purport. Sure, he’s sold tons of records but, is Adam Lambert “the rawk god” a household name across the globe? I think not. And no, I am not trying to argue that Kris is some huge superstar either.
      That being said, all the batshit crazies represent a select group within the Adam fanbase that have made it their mission in life to bash Kris for every single thing. My point? it’s only some Adam fans that act like this; therefore, size of a fanbase has zero to do with the incidents of nutbaggery. These fans are just totally off base- period!

      The point of this particular blog post is to shine light on the downright disgusting behaviour of the Adam Lambert fanbase in relation to recent developments with Kris. There is no denying how wrong they are. If it says fucked up shit about Kris Allen and trolls and makes it life’s aim to bash Kris Allen, it’s probably a bat shit crazy Glambert.

      JaeJae,TI is doing EXACTLY what you suggest – calling a “spade a spade”

      • deez permalink
        January 27, 2010 12:53 am

        There are a couple of points I disagree with JaeJae on. I don’ t think TI bashes Adam, but some of the posters do. (perhaps that is what she meant… sometimes when you read so much, it does run together) I’ve almost bashed him a couple of times myself until I remember…”Do you really mean this towards Adam, or the glittery herd?” Then I change my tune, lol!

        I also don’t agree (that as a whole) Kristards are just as bad. There are some individuals who are just as horrible…but by and large, it’s not even close…that still doesn’t excuse anyone being an idiot, though…and there she has a point.

        I disagree that Kris lacks originality (he writes music, lyrics, and arranges…that’s pretty creative) …if you are referring to vocal creativity, then I see your point. The best vocalists aren’t always the best “singers”, though (JMO) if that makes sense. BUT those are her opinions and they valid, and were expressed reasonably! She also points and laughs at the SparkleCows….I therefore decree that she is a SANE Adam fan!!! Welcome JaeJae!

    • Smartie permalink
      January 27, 2010 12:42 am

      ‘cray cray’ aka FRAU SPEAK.

      Stop butchering the English language to try to disguise your insanity.

      • Sherena permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:13 am

        If “cray cray” is frau speak a lot of teenagers and ppl in their twenties are fraus.

        Which, I suppose, is fine if that’s how you want to redefine the word “frau.”

        I think increasing the vocabulary would be the better option though. ♥

        • Smartie permalink
          January 27, 2010 1:42 am

          Clearly you prefer to have people think you’re retarded by spelling and writing like one. Kudos.

    • margie permalink
      January 27, 2010 1:10 am

      Sorry don’t buy your bullshit 🙂 but it’s all good.

      • deez permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:24 am

        Am I being too gullible, here? I badly want to believe that we have discovered another sanebert!!! I did buy a fake magazine subscription one time from a struggling “college student” so perhaps my judgment is faulty. *sigh*

        • abu permalink
          January 27, 2010 5:32 am

          Well, not all glamberts are insane. It’s just that the 99% of the glamberts make the other 1% look bad.

    • Sherena permalink
      January 27, 2010 1:18 am

      There’s bias everywhere JaeJae…accept it as a fact of life ^.^ Stick around here if you want though, we could always use a couple more Adam fans in the mix.

      As for your controversial “Kris fans are just as cray cray as Adam fans” point, I’ll… back away slowly from that discussion. It’s a silly thing to argue about anyway.

      • old bat permalink
        January 27, 2010 5:28 pm

        It’s not a controversial assertion. You have to know where to look. Mostly they fly under the radar because they keep to their own turf. (Non-lazy krisberts do exist. I am not one of them, therefore I will not provide links. Posting is hard enough work, ok?)

        • Starr permalink
          January 27, 2010 6:32 pm

          We all agree every fanbase has its extremists. The Goketards (is that what they are called? Gokesters?) have their own brand of cray cray, as do the Krisberts. They simply are not as prominent as Adam’s Glamberts though.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 27, 2010 6:35 pm

            But liking Gokey at all makes you crazy, so wouldn’t that make his entire fanbase INSANE?!
            I kid. I kid. 😉

            • deez permalink
              January 27, 2010 7:17 pm

              Insanity or bad taste? 🙂

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 7:56 pm

              Lol probably more bad taste.

    • January 27, 2010 1:36 am

      (yep, kinda late but this is a response to jaejae)

      I think I agree with you a lot.

      We already establish that everyone (esp. idols) have craycray fans. It is part of the fandoms. And by craycray, I mean is more dedicated/obsessed that normal ones so I agree that there are also BAD Kristards/Krisberts. (Hey, can someone point it to me where are they looming.)

      I also agree about Kris doesn’t have THE BEST VOICE EVER!!!. As far as I can remember someone already said from the start that “there’s probably someone better than him”. (But for the life of me I can’t remember who said that. Could someone enlighten me?)

      I also agree that he does have a smaller fanbase. What with the lowest album sales of any winners and far from being *gold*. (Hey, he probably doesn’t really have fans. It’s all AT&T employees and Chica-fil-a crews dedication to vote why he won idol. I bet they’re sick of hearing 50 downloaded LLWD in their ipod.Oh, don’t start with me with those Arkansans.)

      But I disagree with you about the main purpose of this post is to belittle or spew hate on Adam. It’s about calling out those fans that criticize someone, whose doing a good deed, just because he beat their “ROCKGAWD” in a reality show. (You really should read TI’s post again. It’s good. JS)

      PS: Will someone tell me if there’s also an auction for the “Bedazzled Boxer” that Kris got in tour.*checking my account*

      Just kidding. 😉

      • Claire permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:54 am

        “I also agree that he does have a smaller fanbase. What with the lowest album sales of any winners and far from being *gold*”

        Fans of Season 8 contestants suck in terms of album buying.

        • January 27, 2010 2:11 am

          I just hope you get my sarcasm. 😉

          • Claire permalink
            January 27, 2010 2:15 am

            Of course. You forgot to mention the former Gokey voters also helped cause the biggest upset evah!!!111!!

      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 2:32 pm

        Hey, cc: We’re not stupid.

        I also agree about Kris doesn’t have THE BEST VOICE EVER!!!. As far as I can remember someone already said from the start that “there’s probably someone better than him”. (But for the life of me I can’t remember who said that. Could someone enlighten me?)

        Kris said this during his audition on Idol. You know that, so don’t try and be innocently sarcastic. A for effort at trying to sneak in that jab, though.

        Hey TI, isn’t there some sort of alarm for a sparkle cow? We’ve got a live one right here, replete with AT&T conspiracy theories and sour graping over Kris’s success! Run along now, little cow.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 27, 2010 2:39 pm

          AT&T conspiracy theories are still running rampant, aren’t they? Why can’t these people just GET OVER IT.

          I can’t wait until that one woman’s tell-all unauthorized bio about the dark side of Kris Allen and AT&T comes out.

        • January 28, 2010 1:14 am

          Starr- “Do you really think I’m a glambert?” *crying myself in the corner*

          I guess no one really get what I’m trying to say in my last post.*sigh* I’ll clarify, okay?! I highlight those things because those are always the SAME QUOTE I keep reading about Kris from Glamberts who subtly attack him. And after months of reading those, I just roll my eyes to ignore it or find some humor in it (that’s why I agree to jaejae’s post).

          here are the usual (my REAL thoughts in parenthesis):

          “Kris has a nice voice. I just find it ordinary and actually I can see a lot like him in bars who is better than him.” – (Yep, I know it’s Kris himself acknowledge that he’s not the BEST singer in the world. (Who is?) I admire him for his self-awareness and maybe some find it ordinary, I hear sincerity in every song he performs.)

          “He doesn’t have a huge fanbase. His album is not selling well. No one remember him. His songs will be a flop.” – (You know what? I agree but it doesn’t mean it will not expand as he puts out his songs to the public. I actually think it is better if he doesn’t have a large following who expects HUGE EXPECTATION from him as he just starts to grow as an artist. I just enjoy the ride so far.)

          “Kris fans are as bad as Glamberts. They actually spams every Adam thread to belittle his accomplishments.” – ( Sure, there’s always a troll in every thread/post of ALL idols. But, as TI said, Glamberts reach the lowest this time by attacking Kris as a person and questioning his intention to help. Is it to much to ask to just keep quiet if they don’t have anything good to say at all?)

          I’m still horrified you call me a Glambert.*shiver* Oh, well, maybe I can pay a visits where they are looming if I have some energy. 😉

          • Starr permalink
            January 29, 2010 2:31 am

            LOL cc. When people deadpan on posts it’s a little difficult for me to figure out if they’re serious or not. But point taken. I retract my previous accusation of you being a Glambert.

      • old bat permalink
        January 27, 2010 5:37 pm

        I agree the purpose of this post is not to spew hatred on Adam. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of all commenters. I wish people would keep Kris out of it when they are spewing their toxic bile. Not that you are, but in general.

    • Soapbox0916 permalink
      January 27, 2010 1:45 am

      Kris is actually the real deal when it comes to originality. I think people forget how many compromises that musicians have to make with the major music industry and conform. The fact that Kris can adapt to what the producers wanted and to what is current on the radio AND still somehow find a way to be just be Kris being Kris is remarkable.

      My bias is also that it is hard to have musicality without being original, because I believe that they go together. Kris has depth of musicality, soul, character, and passion. I am jealous of Kris’s natural musicality, it is just so organic and pure. Kris has the kind of musicality that cannot be learned, he just has it.

      Kris is also a diamond in the rough, and while some people still like to notice only the rough, I see the diamond part of Kris coming through more and more. However, the point of the analogy about being a diamond in the rough is that a diamond in the rough was a diamond to begin with. I think Kris was always great, but keeps getting better and better too.

      I am pretty sure I qualify as Kris tard, but I don’t do 1% of the craziness as the sparkle cows, I can’t even comprehend how they come up with such gaps of logic. I think most Adam haters are not Kris fans, or at least I prefer not to claim them as such. As for voting, I vote only like a few times for an entire week. I prefer to think I am laid-back instead of lazy though.

      However, JaeJae I have to say I really like you because while we definately disagree about Kris, I just had a musically based conversation with a Adam fan. Yeah! Whoo Hoo!

    • erinnthered permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:14 am

      When you see crazy Kristard behavior, post a link. We’ll mock it. Don’t just come over here and say it’s as bad. Show us. It’s out there, but we don’t know where to look sometimes.

      • Nich permalink
        January 27, 2010 12:18 pm

        I agree. I’m tired of the “well Kris fans are just as bad” stuff. Show me some links. I bet they are out there but I want some links!

      • Starr permalink
        January 27, 2010 2:40 pm

        I think the people who are complaining about Kristards being as bad as the sparkle cows are referring to those who post on articles about Adam complaining about him being gay, and then go on to exalt Kris. In my opinion, those aren’t Krisberts. Heck, they probably never even bought his CD. They’re probably just homophobes who delight on rubbing it in the Glamberts’ faces that “the gay guy” lost out to someone like Kris. I doubt that they are as invested in Kris as they are with attacking people because of their sexual orientation.

        A real Krisbert would know that Kris is 100% okay with Adam being gay, and the rest of America doesn’t care what gay people do with their time, and therefore bashing Adam for being gay not only would annoy Kris, but it would also mean being socially backwards.

        So yeah. The craziest Krisbert might be overly defensive when Kris is being criticized. They might have been the ones who attacked Chris Sligh on Twitter for saying bad things about Kris’s rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner. They might be the ones who stay up late and vote on the VH1 Countdown or the People’s Choice Awards. They might be the ones who bought multiple copies of the album. But I highly doubt there is one who has “KRIS ALLEN” tattooed on her shoulder. If there is one, I’d like to meet that Krisbert, shake their hand and proceed to take pictures of said tattoo for the Top Idol community to see.

    • wino permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:39 am

      sorry sweetcheeks, every year there is an idol contestant that draws out the crazy, fat tards….last season, unfortunately it was adam. its not due to the number of fans, its the type of fans. a simple case of quality vs quantity. plus, if you actually brushed up on your reading comprehension skills, you would be able to see topidol does give adam credit in other entries…..its just not in an OTT fashion that normally appeases the herd. jaejae =cowcow

    • Starr permalink
      January 27, 2010 2:21 pm

      JaeJae: When Adam set up the charity fundraiser thing, did Kris fans criticize him for this? Did they accuse him of attaching his name to a charity as a publicity stunt? Point is, I find it hard to believe you honestly think the most hardcore Kris fan is every bit as cray-cray as the most hardcore Glambert. Because really, while I dislike Adam Lambert immensely, I applaud him for his work with and I don’t think he’s a terrible person.

      If you’re referring to people who troll Adam Lambert articles and constantly bring up that he is gay, those aren’t Kris fans. Those are homophobes. Yes, there are overzealous Kris fans who buy multiple copies of their favorite’s album, and get defensive when Kris is criticized. They were probably the ones who attacked Chris Sligh for expressing his opinion about Kris’s performance at the NFC on Sunday. But Adam has fans who do the same too, AND MORE. They take it even further to say that Kris is doing this trip to Haiti for publicity. They send death threats to Kris’s mother over Twitter; harass one of Adam’s biggest journalist fans (Lyndsey Parker) when she writes anything remotely negative about Adam or remotely positive about Kris. And you’re telling me you’re seeing the same level of cray-cray?

      • TopIdol permalink
        January 27, 2010 2:24 pm

        One of them wanted me charged with attempted murder once. True story.

        • deez permalink
          January 27, 2010 2:43 pm



        • Starr permalink
          January 27, 2010 2:44 pm

          Shut up. Seriously? That is awesome! Did they cite for what reason (other than the repeated reminder of the Glamberts’ insanity on this blog)? You should have let them. That would have at last made TMZ or something!

      • Lauren permalink
        January 27, 2010 5:42 pm

        Kris fans ARE saying that Adam used DonorsChoose for publicity. Well, I don’t know if they did before, but they are now. Read up-thread a bit. Anyway, that doesn’t make the Glamberts any less crazy or excuse what they are saying about Kris. There ARE some crazy Kris fans though, just not to quite the same level.

        • Nich permalink
          January 27, 2010 5:47 pm

          This Kris fans has never said that Adam used DonorsChoose for publicity. I stuck with talking about SOME Adam fans using it as a way to get to him. And when I rant about SOME Adam fans being annoying I always make sure to quantify that I’m talking about the crazy Glamberts and not all Adam fans.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 27, 2010 6:05 pm

            Yes, they have. No, not many, but some have.
            I thank you for that. A lot people just say all of his fans are crazy old people that hate Kris. I am not crazy, old, nor do I dislike Kris.

        • TopIdol permalink
          January 27, 2010 6:06 pm

          I think there are two kinds of publicity when it comes to charity, and perhaps no one has entirely pure intentions, but I do think there are many individuals with purer intentions than others. George Clooney and Brad Pitt, for example, I think they are out to help people. Even Bono and his ego is fairly genuine when it comes down to it. Other people, like say, Tom Cruise or Madonna, it always seems entirely self serving.

          1) you want to draw publicity to a particular cause you feel strongly about
          2) you want to draw publicity to yourself being an uber-do-gooder

          • Starr permalink
            January 27, 2010 6:10 pm

            Ugh, I’m contemplating whether my love for John Travolta in Face/Off can overcome this news of him going to Haiti armed with Scientology. *facepalm*

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 6:13 pm

              LOL! Actually, anyone going anywhere armed with any religion bothers me. Sorry Kris! He doesn’t seem the type to force his religion on others so him being a missionary doesn’t bother me TOO much.

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:02 pm

              I think that when people think of “missions” it’s always a misconception that they are trying to convert people into some sort of religion. Sometimes the mission is just to help those in need. I’ve been on a few missions in the Philippines and religion was not forced down people’s throats. Yes, there was the inclusion of prayer and reading bible stories to the little kids, but that was about the extent of the religious stuff. They were not forced to participate in these activities either.

              I’m not religious, so I’m not big on trying to influence people in that aspect, but I can personally tell you firsthand that these missions do more good than harm and that religion is not the one and only objective.

            • TopIdol permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:20 pm

              Oh no. Anytime Scientology is involved, no good can come of it.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:38 pm

              I agree that missions do more good than harm and I’m sure there are many that keep the religion to a minimum. I guess its just the idea that they seriously think their religion will help the poor souls they have come to rescue that bothers me.

            • erinnthered permalink
              January 28, 2010 4:43 am

              The last thing these poor people need is some crazy scoming at them to do a “touch assist.” *shudder*

              The only reason I miss Texas is that Scientology never really took off there. It’s everywhere here. I know the places are mostly empty, but all the buildings make me cringe.

        • erinnthered permalink
          January 28, 2010 4:39 am

          I believe you Lauren, but I don’t see any of that in these blog comments, and that doesn’t excuse anyone’s behavior towards Kris in this situation. I do think some of the attacks on Adam go way too far. All the people making fun of his teenage photos, for one.

          I don’t think Adam did the Donor’s Choose for publicity, but you have to admit that Adam has done things for the publicity and attention in the recent past, so people who think that aren’t just pulling the idea out of thin air. As opposed to the idea that Kris is doing this publicity or that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Despite Kris’ long history of aid work and him barely mentioning it once on a local NOLA radio station.

  37. erinnthered permalink
    January 26, 2010 11:38 pm

    Holy crap!

    I opened the thread, and it looked like the posts had disappeared. Then I read VD’s comment. Nice.

    Off to catch up…

  38. WooAmanda permalink
    January 26, 2010 11:12 pm

    Every (yes each and every) fan group launches campaigns for their favorite’s video to get to the top of VH1. Every (yes each and every) fan thinks their “idol” deserves to be on top. Some (yes only some) don’t understand why their favorite didn’t get on top despite their voting. There’s much more that plays into what gets on top. I’d have to say availability to be on the show plays into it in some respect.

    While I’m neither an Adam or Kris fan, I’d lie if I said that I wasn’t rooting for Kris to kill Adam with sales. This comes from the fact that Adam seems to be the chosen child coupled with the fact that I honestly think Kris is the better musician. I have a truly difficult time getting into someone who only wants to be famous. I want to hear artistry,,,Adan can’t bother with that concept while being rolled up in the red carpets to make sure he’s at every fricking one.

    Those who maintain he’s changed American Idol, well maybe so. I hope not because if he has, he’s changed it for the absolute worst.

    • old bat permalink
      January 27, 2010 5:25 pm

      Please. Both Kris and Adam are perfectly nice people, just with different personalities. They’re both trying to make it, they just go at it from different angles. The crazy fans you will have always have with you. Don’t attack Adam because of his fans. Or if you really want to, please don’t bring Kris into it. I doubt Kris wants to be associated with the kind of hate that’s starting to fill up the comments to this post.

      • Lauren permalink
        January 27, 2010 6:01 pm

        Finally somebody agrees with me! I was reading the posts and getting angrier and angrier. When the thread first started, it was all about how wrong it is to call Kris a famewhore which I totally agreed with. It has now somehow morphed into calling Adam a famewhore and discrediting anything charitable he has ever done. *Sighs and waits for backlash*

        • Starr permalink
          January 27, 2010 6:50 pm

          Lauren and old bat: I think that the reason “fame whore” keeps getting thrown at Adam is because people do think a lot of the stuff he does is very PR-driven. His “provocative” pictures for DETAILS magazine, his AMAs performance, SAG awards appearance, and now Red Carpet correspondent for the Grammys, etc. It doesn’t help that he’s best buds with Perez Hilton and is being pimped on his site incessantly. Basically, to a lot of the commenters here (I won’t speak for everyone, but for myself only) a lot of the stuff Adam does seems to coincide with most people who get labeled a fame whore. You can disagree, and that’s definitely fine.

          With regards to the Donors Choose thing, for the most part we’re in agreement that what Adam did was a good thing, and I personally don’t think it was for PR. I think he just wanted to channel his fans’ enthusiasm to a positive place and good for him. I certainly don’t agree that he only did it for PR.

          My point is: People are getting angry that Kris is getting called a fame whore, when there is absolutely no reason he would do something like a trip to Haiti for publicity. There is more reason that goes AGAINST this “fame whore” thing, and yet the BSC fans choose not to accept it. They completely dismiss his previous humanitarian efforts, call him irresponsible for making this decision, and then say he’s only doing it to get PR for his “poorly-selling album”. That just isn’t reasonable. It JUST so happens that most of the people calling Kris a fame whore for the Haiti trip are Glamberts. Which is why I think the hypocrisy is being discussed here.

          Some of the commenters here might think that calling Adam a fame whore is warranted, and they may have their legitimate reasons (as I enumerated above). I personally just don’t see legitimate reasons for calling Kris a fame whore. Call him boring, call him a bad interview, complain that he’s going bald, or that he’s not a good performer, whatever. I just don’t think calling him a fame whore even remotely makes sense, especially not when the event in question is a trip to Haiti to help people out.

          • old bat permalink
            January 27, 2010 7:11 pm

            See, I do think Adam loves attention. It’s not a bad thing, per se, and he’s rather charming about it. And of course the last thing you can legitimately call Kris is “attention-seeking”. And the Glambert attack on Kris’s… Krisness… has been frankly insane this past week.

            However. That is not a reason to attack Adam. And I am not saying that you are, but many have done so in this thread, under the flag of “in defense of poor Kris”. That is what I find objectionable. I don’t think a number of them give a shit about Kris. They just want any excuse to slam Adam.

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:15 pm

              Gotcha. I think to some it’s like:

              “Kris is a fame whore? Who said this?”
              “Adam fans.”
              “Adam fans? Of all people?”

              So it might be difficult for most to separate their opinions of Adam’s cray cray fans with their opinions for Adam. I agree that the conversation has run off a tangent and become an Adam conversation, and I do agree that it shouldn’t. If this were another thread, say about Adam, would you allow these same commenters to express their opinions about him, positive or negative? Because I think that the good thing about the convo here is that although there are slams on Adam, they are slams based on the choices he has made with his career. Notice that we don’t have a lot of those vitriolic comments about his sexual orientation. And I think those are legitimate questions and criticisms. If one were to bring up Kris’s ineloquence in interviews, or Kris as a boring performer, I would not be offended with that either.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:40 pm

              If this were a topic about Adam, I would be arguing but not nearly as upset. I mean I have the right to voice my opposing opinion too.

          • Lauren permalink
            January 27, 2010 7:52 pm

            My comment wasn’t directed at you Starr. We all obviously can agree that Kris is not a famewhore. That is just the BSC Glamberts being BSC. Where we disagree is that I wouldn’t exactly call Adam a famewhore. Sure, he does desire fame much more than Kris but as Old Bat says, that is not necessarily a bad thing. It’s fine to think Adam’s a famewhore, but don’t use it to defend Kris or at least don’t say DonorsChoose was PR. I know you haven’t, but a couple others have.

            • Starr permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:19 pm

              Maybe it has to do with our preferences. I personally don’t like a lot of the “Hollywood” crowd. I’m not a fan of people who feel like they need to be at every red carpet event even if they are not relevant to the event. To me, one could be doing better things. If I were Adam’s record label and management, I would be kicking myself right now, because they really mishandled Adam’s introduction to the rest of America (outside of the bubble). He could have been really big. Instead, they relied on a lot of the hype surrounding Adam and as a result he is still a polarizing artist. I went off topic, didn’t I?

              Anyway, I agree with what you’re saying. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize Adam’s Donor’s Choose work while defending Kris’s choice to go to Haiti.

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 8:42 pm

              It probably has more to do with the fact that I can’t be critical of Adam. I literally just can’t. 🙂
              If I were on Adam’s team I probably would have done a more Kris-like promotion. Except for the AMAs, I liked those. 😉

  39. kelanie permalink
    January 26, 2010 10:59 pm

    There’s a twitter campaign going on right now:

    “ONLY 3 Days left to get WWFM into top 10 For adam lambert Bday 01/29 Plz spend $1.29 4 best gift ever”

  40. Sherena permalink
    January 26, 2010 10:48 pm

    General comment on this whole thing: you’d think that when the guy you stan actually DOES have mediawhore-ish tendencies, you’d be less quick to accuse others of being mediawhorish. But no, let’s choose the path of hypocrisy, why don’t we.

    • Sherena permalink
      January 26, 2010 10:48 pm

      Sometimes Adam fans make me sad~

      • erinnthered permalink
        January 27, 2010 2:10 am

        But people like you make Adam awesome. He needs more fans like the ones on this blog. Don’t give up!

  41. Sunnysider permalink
    January 26, 2010 9:40 pm

    This article is right on. (Though I’m disturbed I was confused with a Glambert. I was the one who posted about people searching for “Chris Allen” after Kris’ fine rendition of the National Anthem. I just thought it was funny – and encouraging in a way – that people were looking him up after his performance even though they couldn’t spell his name right.)

    One of the most telling things to me is that Glamberts were criticizing Kris’ humanitarian efforts even when there are almost no known details about Kris’ trip. Not that I can think of any detail that would make the trip criticizable rather than commendable but it just shows that the crazies don’t need or care about facts to form an attack.

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 26, 2010 10:01 pm

      I thought it was encouraging, too.

      Sorry I confused you for a Glambert 🙂 Please forgive me.

      • abu permalink
        January 27, 2010 1:16 pm

        That’s right, you should apologize … calling somebody a “Glambert” – that’s just a low blow. 😉

  42. jukejoint permalink
    January 26, 2010 7:41 pm

    I am convinced that the supposed Kristard campaign to get him to the top of VH-1’s countdown is just as much of an urban myth as Big Foot, Liz Claiborne saying something racist on Oprah, Lincoln’s brain floating in a jar on a ship in the Potomac, somebody waking up in a hotel room without a liver, Chick-Fil-A buying the AI finale outcome, or Kris fans going around the internet on a slash-and-burn campaign to say homophobic things about Adam.

    About 90% of kids who do things they’re not supposed to point to somebody else and whine, “But she did it first!” And most of them are lying. I simply do not buy that Kris fans are even a fraction as bad as the Glamberts. Even the worst ones.

    And why would Kris fans glop up TWoP to push Kris’s forum to page 4? That makes no sense. For the same reason, I am guessing that the fans of Cook, Carrie, Elliott, Katharine McPhee, J-Hud and Taylor Hicks are cleared, since they’re all down there with Kris, unlike Adam, Gokey or Allison, who are at the top. All in all, blaming Kris fans sounds like the usual “Not me — him!” deflect and deny campaign that comes from six-year-olds. Whoever starcrash, jas89 and Dramatista are — those would be your conspirators.

    Meanwhile, somebody at TWoP has figured something out, because the threads that were bumped up are going back to oblivion again and Kris’s locked thread is on page 2 again.

  43. So Soupy permalink
    January 26, 2010 7:26 pm

    “cheap publicity stunt”

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA? Is this Glamturd serious? One acronym: AMAs. The ultimate face-raping, over the top publicity stunt. Adam Lambert is THE definition of famewhore. Where has his support been for Haiti? Gay rights? World AIDS Day? Exactly, I really think he doesn’t give a flying fuck about anything or anybody but his pathetic career.

    I like Mandy Pantikin. Criminal Minds is one of my favorite TV shows, and I LOVE The Princess Bride. Guess what? He’s a douchebag. Guess what? I don’t really give a shit because his life doesn’t affect mine and I choose to enjoy his roles. That’s the part I don’t understand about AI “super” fans–you make these men walk on water. They aren’t saints.

    I think Glamberts are even more vicious now, because Kris Allen is starting to pick up a lot of momentum–his song is getting more and more radio play, which doesn’t translate to success always, but it’s actual musical momentum and not PR stunts like Lamebert.

    Excellent post! I never thought the Cooktards would look sane by comparison to the Glamberts . Congratulations!

    • Lauren permalink
      January 26, 2010 10:36 pm

      Hi So Soupy. It’s kinda funny that you are talking about how idiotic and vicious the Glamberts are for calling Kris’s work in Haiti a PR stunt, when you completely write off all the work Adam has done for DonorsChoose. They both have done charity in ways that fit them. I think this issue has been addressed at least 5 times upthread and so I wasn’t even going to respond, but your comment just struck me as ignorant. Review the facts before you Adam bash please.

      • So Soupy permalink
        January 27, 2010 8:16 am

        Wait I’m sorry. He twattered for his cult to donate and they did. And he’s selling his dirty underwear on eBay for charity. Soooooooooooooo….he’s using his over the top fans to make charitable contributions to society, instead of doing the work himself. That’s something to really write home about.

        God, I’m so not a Clay Aiken fan, but I give him credit for all the volunteer work he has done. I respect David Cook for actually DOING volunteer work like Race for Hope. Not everyone can go down to Haiti, so I respect what Kris Allen is doing. Adam can keep saving the world, one pre-SAG interview at a time.

        Forgive me–I insulted the next Mother Teresa *eye roll*

        • Lauren permalink
          January 27, 2010 5:30 pm

          I was unaware that only physical labor counts as charity. I’ll remember that the next time I go to donate money.

          And I never said he was Mother Teresa. Don’t even start.

          • Starr permalink
            January 27, 2010 7:03 pm

            Guys…guys…let’s all get along! Fanwarring is annoying. Trust me. TI is supposed to be where we all go for solace, away from the tards who like to fanwar.

            • January 27, 2010 7:07 pm

              Fanwarring sucks, it is what has driven me away from MJs lately. I’d rather just snark 🙂

          • deez permalink
            January 27, 2010 7:31 pm

            Exactly!!! Adam knows what he does well, if he uses the resources he has to raise awareness and $$$, then why is that bad??? Not everyone is cut out to be a “hands-on” type.(I know I’m not) But that doesn’t mean that I don’t care, or the things I’m able to do weren’t well-intentioned and helpful. People are needed to help at every level, the doctors that go there to lend a hand couldn’t get there, if there weren’t people doing the little things to facilitate the trip. The Adam hate from some people is getting somewhat irrational…can we focus on the Glamberts???

            • Lauren permalink
              January 27, 2010 7:55 pm

              Thank you Deez. Again, I find that other people make my points better than I can. 🙂
              Anyway, yes let’s stop the fanwar. I usually don’t argue unless something REAALLY outrageous is said. Sorry ’bout that.

    • on the edge permalink
      January 27, 2010 5:13 pm

      Is it okay I do a little dance celebrating the end of the Cooktards reign on crazy? Now I can be certified sane again!

  44. Kathy permalink
    January 26, 2010 7:22 pm

    Lets hope.:)

  45. deez permalink
    January 26, 2010 7:05 pm

    Where did everything go?

    • deez permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:06 pm

      Holy crap! A page turnover? Is this a first?

    • LeighKat permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:07 pm

      click older comments

  46. wino permalink
    January 26, 2010 7:02 pm

    for fk sake, its not like kris is renting a dingy and arriving on the shores of Haiti by himself. he is working with an organization, and i am positive his agency/manager are handling it to make sure he doesnt get in the way….this is NOT the first time a person (not just kris) goes into a crisis to volunteer. yes, there are civilians who do get in the way (by going about it the wrong way),but that doesnt mean the other (legit) volunteers arent needed or wanted.

    plus, who knows the extent of his trip and what he was told he could do? maybe the initial offering was to help with rebuilding, but now they might want him to stay away for a few more days/weeks until they pull all of the bodies from the rubble. again, who knows the exact circumstance of his mission? and since nobody can answer honesty, i suggest they STFU.

    oh, how i wish these cows (and other random trailer trash online trolls) would have the nerve to say this to kris’ face or any other celebrity volunteer. bottom line, i applaud any person who donates their money and/or time.

    there will be time when one of these sparklefarts will get stuck in a natural disaster ……and i pray to my agnostic/nonexistent god that kris allen is the volunteer who comforts them with a blanket and a bottle of water.

    • LeighKat permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:06 pm

      Awesome post Wino!

    • TopIdol permalink
      January 26, 2010 9:59 pm

      there will be time when one of these sparklefarts will get stuck in a natural disaster ……and i pray to my agnostic/nonexistent god that kris allen is the volunteer who comforts them with a blanket and a bottle of water.

      You mean when they end up in the emergency unit in Black Rock City hooked up to IVs (saline) because they collapse into a dehydrated pile in the middle of the desert? Might not be a natural disaster, but I can see it happening.

      • wino permalink
        January 27, 2010 2:26 am

        this made me pee just a tiny bit in my pants….the image of a massive sparklefart pile is too persh for words

  47. katC permalink
    January 26, 2010 6:37 pm

    Just want to point out Kris fans make just as hyperbolic comments about Kris (“omg so presh”, “how is he real?”, “he is seriously perfect”). Fan comments can get out of hand online, but it doesn’t mean they’re necessarily idiots. Or vicious.

    Also, there’s a guitar on eBay that claims to have Kris’ DNA on it on bid. LOL

    Yeah….stupidity on both sides. But the Haiti bashing thing still takes the cake on douchery.

    • LeighKat permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:01 pm

      The DNA on guitar is totally nuts and kinda gross! would love to see the link to that! LMAO!

    • deez permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:02 pm

      “(“omg so presh”, “how is he real?”, “he is seriously perfect”)”.

      ????? That’s not even close to the creepy stuff that was copied.(and that stuff was from MJ’s) I can’t even imagine the drivel on his fansites. Four words about Adam’s hotness is fine…pages about the glambulge, watching him sleep, how he has awakened your sexuality…is just frakkin weird.

      • Kathy permalink
        January 26, 2010 7:09 pm

        This. And where is Lauren? The crazies haven’t kidnapped her to hold her hostage have they? lol I bet they caught her wearing plaid. 🙂

        • Claire permalink
          January 26, 2010 7:14 pm

          Noooo! Hopefully she’s just busy with school and homework 🙂

          • Lauren permalink
            January 26, 2010 9:16 pm

            Hahaha school kidnapped me! I am attempting to get caught up. When I first checked my email it said 200 emails. The majority are from this blog. lol

    • stanless permalink
      January 26, 2010 7:24 pm

      You’re right, every Idol has their share of OTT fans. For whatever reason, Adam’s fans annoy more than any others have though. And I didn’t have a horse in Season 8.

    • old bat permalink
      January 26, 2010 9:35 pm

      I don’t think you read the ebay description right. Try again.

      > You are looking at a guitar that has been authenticated by 3rd party authenticators PSA/DNA. This guitar was authenticated by PSA/DNA and has been deemed 100% authentic.

      It’s a service that authenticates and marks autographed items. The seller has hundreds of guitars from numerous artists.

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